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No Longer Available NEW MODULE => Boomerang - Email Marketing and reporting fully integrated!

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Euan's avatar
Euan
214 posts
16 years ago
Euan's avatar Euan
Ah - not quite what I meant. I was referring to the ability to limit the amount of emails sent per hour as in “send 8 emails every 60 seconds”. The reason is many hosts have a cap on the maximum emails you can send out per hour, often around the 500 mark. EE currently can’t do this 😊
I too would be curious if the module provides a native means to throttle mailings. We just ran into a situation where a clients HOST limited outgoing emails to 1000 per hour. Obviously not an issue if you’re only sending out a few hundred newsletters. But if you have a mailing list consisting of 10,000+ recipients this is a very real issue. ?

It would also depend on your server. I know my host has limits on shared/grid servers but not on dedicated servers.

We have opted to use an external service to deal with emails which takes out of the equation the restriction placed by the host.

       
Tom Jaeger's avatar
Tom Jaeger
497 posts
16 years ago
Tom Jaeger's avatar Tom Jaeger
I’ll make sure it’s highlighted for all to see. Boomerang actually sits on top of the Mailing List module to manage your contacts, so anything Mailing has, Boomerang does too.
Ah - not quite what I meant. I was referring to the ability to limit the amount of emails sent per hour as in “send 8 emails every 60 seconds”. The reason is many hosts have a cap on the maximum emails you can send out per hour, often around the 500 mark. EE currently can’t do this 😊

It doesn’t currently have a throttling functionality. I can see this is a needed functionality. I would be apt to say we will have that sooner then later. Possibly next release.

       
lebisol's avatar
lebisol
2,234 posts
16 years ago
lebisol's avatar lebisol
Ah - not quite what I meant. I was referring to the ability to limit the amount of emails sent per hour as in “send 8 emails every 60 seconds”. The reason is many hosts have a cap on the maximum emails you can send out per hour, often around the 500 mark. EE currently can’t do this 😊
I too would be curious if the module provides a native means to throttle mailings. We just ran into a situation where a clients HOST limited outgoing emails to 1000 per hour. Obviously not an issue if you’re only sending out a few hundred newsletters. But if you have a mailing list consisting of 10,000+ recipients this is a very real issue. ?

Any decent host will do this. After all, you would not want to be tagged as spamming domain or even worse on shared all of the domains. Reason why campaignmonitor is a better choice. Never the less this is a great starter plugin for those who have mailing lists in 100s of subscribers.

       
brianfidler's avatar
brianfidler
75 posts
16 years ago
brianfidler's avatar brianfidler

This looks great. One concern I always have with sending out large email campaigns from my server is that it requires a lot more whitelist/blacklist management at the ISP level. So I usually use services such as MailChimp. Do you have any recommendations to overcome these concerns or are they overblown?

thanks, brian

       
Hendrik-Jan Francke's avatar
Hendrik-Jan Francke
181 posts
16 years ago
Hendrik-Jan Francke's avatar Hendrik-Jan Francke

Very promising, I will definitely evaluate soon.

Does the Boomerang automatically handle bounced emails? Hard and soft?

       
Riverboy's avatar
Riverboy
2,993 posts
16 years ago
Riverboy's avatar Riverboy

WOW. This is cool!

       
Jack McDade's avatar
Jack McDade
425 posts
16 years ago
Jack McDade's avatar Jack McDade
Does the Boomerang automatically handle bounced emails? Hard and soft?

Currently there is no bounce detection, though we have some work in on the feature. It’s a bit complicated for users to set up though, as they need to be handed and subsequently parsed by an actual email address. There’s a possibility it will be added to the module in the future though.

       
Jack McDade's avatar
Jack McDade
425 posts
16 years ago
Jack McDade's avatar Jack McDade
This looks great. One concern I always have with sending out large email campaigns from my server is that it requires a lot more whitelist/blacklist management at the ISP level. So I usually use services such as MailChimp. Do you have any recommendations to overcome these concerns or are they overblown?

Your concerns definitely aren’t unfounded. Boomerang will not be right for everyone (e.g. those trying to send tens of thousands of emails from a small shared server may get frustrated or max out their host’s email send limit).

But if you have a solid server (preferably with a dedicated IP) – something like a MT(dv) or similar, you might be surprised how reliable it can be, and for under a hundred bucks, it can pay for itself in just a couple of mailings over MailChimp or Campaign Monitor.

       
Flatulent Badger's avatar
Flatulent Badger
96 posts
16 years ago
Flatulent Badger's avatar Flatulent Badger

Apple Mail.app issue.

I may have uncovered a bug when sending an email to an Apple Mail.app user.

When sending an email using a mailing list (whether it be multiple addresses, or a single address in the list) the delivered email is not rendered in HTML, the output appears to be the raw source minus the email header info.

However, when sending an email using the ‘Quick Send’ test feature, to both a single address, and to comma separated muliple addresses the HTML is rendered perfectly in Apple Mail.app.

Any ideas?

Other that that, this is a cracking module, it does need that dynamic function, but that issue can be worked around for the time being.

       
Jack McDade's avatar
Jack McDade
425 posts
16 years ago
Jack McDade's avatar Jack McDade
When sending an email using a mailing list (whether it be multiple addresses, or a single address in the list) the delivered email is not rendered in HTML, the output appears to be the raw source minus the email header info.

On my test everything came through fine, so lets look at a couple of items here:

Does the same exact email show up okay in other email clients, like Gmail or Thunderbird? What version of Mail.app do you have? What’s your server environment?

       
Flatulent Badger's avatar
Flatulent Badger
96 posts
16 years ago
Flatulent Badger's avatar Flatulent Badger

Hi Jack, thanks for the speedy response.

Every client I have tried so far (gmail, hotmail, horde webmail, amail, Outlook, Outlook Express) all render perfectly.

I have also made sure that EE Communications tab is sending html email correctly to both single addresses and mailing list addresses. Mail.app is displaying those correctly.

I am running Mail Version 3.6 (936) on 10.5.8

Serverside it is a dedicated CentOS server running Plesk 9.2.1.

I have tried changing the EE (1.6.7) mail admin settings to use phpmail, sendmail and smtp (through 2 different hosts), all with exactly the outcome as described.

       
Jack McDade's avatar
Jack McDade
425 posts
16 years ago
Jack McDade's avatar Jack McDade

@Flatulent Badger: Very bizarre. I’m on Mail Version 3.6 (935/935.3), so i’m doing the latest OSX update to see if something changed, however unlikely.

My first guess is an email headers glitch. The test send and the full send go through different processes (to bypass tracking, for example), so it’s possible the headers aren’t identical or something. We’ll dig in and see what can be done, but it’ll be tough if we can’t reproduce it, so let’s hope this does it.

       
Flatulent Badger's avatar
Flatulent Badger
96 posts
16 years ago
Flatulent Badger's avatar Flatulent Badger

This just gets even more bizarre.

In an attempt to try and figure out if any plugins/extensions or modules were conflicting, I made an exact copy of the EE database and site, installed this on a subdomain, updated config.php and updated the paths etc for the subdomain.

On the subdomain it works flawlessly. I’m stumped and need some sleep. Will attempt to figure out in the morning.

[UPDATE] Tentative solution :

De-install Boomerang Module. Disable FastCGI support on domain. Restart server. Install Boomerang and all is right in the world once again. 😊

       
Jack McDade's avatar
Jack McDade
425 posts
16 years ago
Jack McDade's avatar Jack McDade

Okay yeah, definitely bizarre. My update didn’t change anything… Must be something glitchy with your install? I can’t think of anything that would do that.

       
leadsuccess's avatar
leadsuccess
408 posts
16 years ago
leadsuccess's avatar leadsuccess

About time you launched, I thought it was going to never happen. Anyway congrats on the boom thing and do well!

       
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