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Have been thinking about this since the first iPhone demo but now that it’s getting close I’d like to get your thoughts.
Apple has a new demo video out for the iPhone (here) so you can take a look.
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While surfing in Safari, they tap an image and it zooms in, they tap an article and it zooms in on just that article. What’s your guess on how they are determining what to zoom?
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My guess is they are looking at the dom tree (code) and picking out the image tag and probably a div surrounding the article.

So, what if anything should one be doing while coding to make this work effectivly on the iPhone?

Those are good thoughts and I hadn’t thought of it until you brought it up.  After watching the demo, it does make you think…

I believe it simply zooms in a certain percentage and that’s it.  Although the demo makes it look precise, as if it’s focusing on a containing element (div or other), I bet once we get our hands on it, it will be a lot of tapping and repositioning.

Yes, it could just be a dbl-clk zoom like Google Maps.
With Safari on Windows and their emphasis on standards-based development I’m thinking there’s more to this…maybe I’m just hoping there is 😉

I hope you’re right!  It wouldn’t surprise me if it was more intelligent.

Are you gonna get one sooner or later?

At some point…don’t know that I want to fight the maddening crowds on the 29th though and I don’t really need to be the coolest kid on the block. The one thing I haven’t seen shown/mentioned is voice dialing. That’s one thing I use all the time.
Use Verizon EVDO a lot so EDGE might seem too slow. On the other hand, outside the five major cities here in MN/Wisc Verizon has almost zero native coverage so even dialup speeds aren’t available via Verizon cell.

Some iPhone developer docs leaked evidently… zdNet
In essence, design like newspapers with columns for zoom. Your finger doesn’t work like a mouse so there is no hover highlighting.
Not much there to go on.

That may be an indication of some DOM parsing.  The new Web Inspector already greys out everything except what you right clicked to inspect—just add another step of zooming?  Slick either way.  And I’m totally guessing from the conversation here and your link, Randy, as I haven’t yet had time to watch the new video.

Ya Derek, you’re thinking along the same lines as I am.
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No hover could cause some problems on some sites. Auto drop-down lists won’t work for one.
Wonder if there will be a special tag to turn those phone numbers into call links or if Safari/iPhone is somehow doing that on it’s own (my guess).

I wouldn’t leave hover out of the question, as the early video showing the CGI rendering of the touch screen showed that resistance did for a response before actually making contact with the screen.  And that has to be technically accurate right, and not just a cool marketing video? :-D

It would probably be very difficult to balance for usability, though, even if technically possible.  Hovering when you didn’t want it to and accidentally touching when you meant to hover.

Accelerometer!! I’m sold

Derek…
Hover…well, according to that article/post I referenced earlier that references a university summary about iPhone from the WWDC (now pulled), there is no hover. Of course until we get one in our grubby little hands there’s a lot we won’t know for sure.

Have you guys seen iPhoney from MarketCircle? It’s free. Pretty slick looking, too.

Ya, haven’t played with it yet though.
Actually, I’m iPhone hyped out about now 😊

Ya, haven’t played with it yet though.
Actually, I’m iPhone hyped out about now 😊

Yeah I second that! It’s just the “flavor of the month” Besides I am confused! A recent article in my newspaper stated that the iphone does not even support things like flash, though it’s kind a funny because their commercial showcased the “YouTube” website which has so much flash. what’s with that! Regardless users gave it a high rating, but I wonder will they still feel the same way in a month or 2? I was on the bandwagon to get one, but so many of my existing accessories are not compatible with it. I think Apple will have a hard time living up to the hype as well. :cheese:

I’ll let you guys know around 6pm eastern time tomorrow 😊