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This is what the Showcase is for. 😊

The Showcase is impressive, of course, but it’s not quite what I meant. Examples that could be shown right there in the install - the first impression - would let users see the working example and compare the template code that went into it. There’s really no substitute.

Enjoying seeing where this leads.

CI stands for CodeIgniter an Open Source PHP framework that EE 2.0 will run on.

Argh!  My brain isn’t working tonight. I should have known that! 😊

I’m backing you on this one RonnieMc.

1st Place: Section
2nd Place: Channels
3rd Place: Weblog

Something else enters into the picture here. The future.

Weblog was the past. Section is current. Channels might be the future, considering the way the web is going (TV stations, radio stations, newspapers, all having trouble competing against the “multi-channel” web).

With multimedia converging quickly into the web, it may be that EE is on the cutting edge of terminology with Channel.

I’ve been using ‘Section’ since early EE because weblog was outmoded already. Moving forward, I see a bunch of opportunities for more comprehensive, complex, multimedia sites, so I’ll lean toward Channels. It’s OK.

Besides, Derek threatened to withhold EE 2.0 from me until version 2.1 (right after Obama’s second inauguration).

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This is what the Showcase is for. 😊

The Showcase is impressive, of course, but it’s not quite what I meant. Examples that could be shown right there in the install - the first impression - would let users see the working example and compare the template code that went into it. There’s really no substitute.

Enjoying seeing where this leads.

Deployments, installable like modules, extensions? A Shop deployment, a Portfolio deployment, etc.

When I show potential clients and other developers the install process (which is actually fine) and the sample templates, their enthusiasm seems to wane considerably.

I like the idea of a few different types of sites (mashup/aggregator, blog, corp. site, web app, etc.) to show the range of possibilities. Quality and differentiation is key here.

Thoughts? Ideas? How can this go beyond marketing and into really useful, illuminating examples that get clients excited about the possibilities?

Derek numero uno presented a while back a different way of creating and sharing templates as physical file themes. To me this idea seemed that it would be much easier for community contributors to share sites, for exactly the reason you mention, creating demos.
I hope this helps for learning and demo purposes anyways, maybe I’m reading too much into that post?

Derek numero uno presented a while back a different way of creating and sharing templates as physical file themes. To me this idea seemed that it would be much easier for community contributors to share sites, for exactly the reason you mention, creating demos.
I hope this helps for learning and demo purposes anyways, maybe I’m reading too much into that post?

This is a must have for 2.0—some way to “load” physical templates into EE. The challenge, of course, is that EE’s tag structure is usually within the templates, but even then some ‘basic’ or ‘default’ setups would go a long way toward creating a cottage template industry.

I don’t mind the “channels” metaphor. Perhaps this has already come up, but I wonder, what is the equivalent of an “entry” inside a channel? IMHO “entry” breaks the metaphor and is therefore not ideal. Something like “item” would work, its strength being that it is very generic. Is there another good term that is both consistent with the channels metaphor and still generic enough to apply to all the myriad uses to which the Channels Module will be put?

Is there another good term that is both consistent with the channels metaphor and still generic enough to apply to all the myriad uses to which the Channels Module will be put?

Here in Brighton, UK we’re right on the English Channel, which makes me think perhaps there could be yachts? Maybe armadas, tunnels, historic evacuations, piers?

Is there another good term that is both consistent with the channels metaphor and still generic enough to apply to all the myriad uses to which the Channels Module will be put?

Here in Brighton, UK we’re right on the English Channel, which makes me think perhaps there could be yachts? Maybe armadas, tunnels, evacuations, piers?

Now we’re talking!

“First, sail a Yacht into your Channel. You can combine your Yachts into a single Armada that can be accessed from any web browser.”

At the risk of polluting the thread.

WordPress has undergone a major UI upgrade with plenty of drag and drop Ajaxian goodness.

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/wordpress_27_coltrane.php

I know Wordpress is not exactly a competitor, but will we see equivalent/or more UI enhancements in EE 2?

(yes I’ve seen Veerle’s designs and they are beautiful… but it seems that increasingly UI is the differentiator… )

At the risk of polluting the thread.

WordPress has undergone a major UI upgrade with plenty of drag and drop Ajaxian goodness.

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/wordpress_27_coltrane.php

I know Wordpress is not exactly a competitor, but will we see equivalent/or more UI enhancements in EE 2?

(yes I’ve seen Veerle’s designs and they are beautiful… but it seems that increasingly UI is the differentiator… )

Have you seen the Sneak Preview movie?

Channel is fine for me. Well, i think everything in that part is ok when 2.0 comes. But that is not what im “waiting for”, its more cosmetics for me as im not native in english. What i wait is new features, such as Site wide search that finds things from gallery also.

This “first impression” talk should be (sorry if i’m the bad boy now) more into new features that end user gets, that what we can make up with those.

And what comes to single Example Site. That is good if that comes out as kind of a “zipped” resource of what and how you can make basic things.

Last i want to point out one important thing, for me at least. EE Forums should have also one Example Forum, and way better documentation of its tags, variables and so on. Because it has to be bought, i wish and wait for more better docs on how to do, what can be done with it. And hopefully hopefully it comes more integrated into EE itself - after all - it uses the very same database with EE.

So, if there is only minor improvements in features, i do hope that MSM, Forums and EE itself comes closer each and present variables and so on, could be used in all these and Site wide.

Btw, does the attachment deleting work now in forums? Before EE Forums did not delete attachments if i deleted post or removed attachment from a post!

As said, more we wait, more people have time to think “what it brings into table”. Hopefully it is not just these “channels” and backend things that does not bring anything new to my “saleletters” when i talk about how good and great present EE is now and how brilliant it will be when 2.0 comes.

Yours:
- Tuittu

(and sorry if there is typos, havent wrote english in few weeks =) )

Simon Collison is a published author on HTML, CSS, and web design, the team he leads at Erskine do outstanding work, and they have formidable EE experience…

Nice to know. I have been reading the Web Standards Creativity lately (althought the book itself drops its pages way too easy so i need to send it back and ask for new that can be readable later on also).

Good to know that there is Team that sure can make things rock.

Yours:
- Tuittu

Btw, does the attachment deleting work now in forums? Before EE Forums did not delete attachments if i deleted post or removed attachment from a post!

http://ellislab.com/forums/viewthread/89631/
http://expressionengine.com/docs/modules/forum/changelog.html

Please do not reply to this here, as it does not pertain to this thread, but I wanted to provide an answer for you.

I’m happy with the term ‘channel’ anything is better than weblog.

I would not consider channel self explainatory to a site user though - you may think the term channel or weblog is transparent to the user but the container name does appear to end users in the advanced search. {exp:search:advanced_form}

Will there be a way to handle what’s displayed to the public on advanced search?

john