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December 08, 2008 5:49pm

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  • #1 / Dec 08, 2008 5:49pm

    Leslie Camacho

    1340 posts

    For December we are planning on two ExpressionEngine 2.0 updates. The first is this very post. The second will be around Dec. 19, give or take a couple days.

    One of our goals for 2.0 is to change the first impression people have with ExpressionEngine. Right now there is a disconnect with how people hear about EE and what they see when they first experience it.

    We do zero advertising so when someone hears about EE its because someone they trust told them, they’ve read a review, or heard that “such and such a site is on EE” through a blog post, Twitter, you get the idea.

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  • #2 / Dec 08, 2008 6:00pm

    divspace

    29 posts

    Interesting. I really liked this part:

    I want to make clear that from a developer standpoint that this is purely a change in terminology. In other words, this:

    {exp:weblog:entries weblog="bands"}

    is equal to:

    {exp:channel:entries channel="bands"}

    The EE 2.0 installer will automatically update this in your templates so you don’t have to.

    The naming conventions of that always bothered me, because for the majority of the sites I built with EE, I wasn’t even using a blog. I’d always rename the “weblog” to “section” in the control panel to further reduce any confusion for others who had to use the backend, so I’m glad to see EE is working on reducing this confusion and letting people know that EE isn’t just for blogging, you can literally build entire sites out of it, with blogging being just one of the many features available.

    Looking forward to the 2.0 release, I feel like I’ve been waiting forever!

    Oh, and I also didn’t know this site was built in EE. Very cool.

  • #3 / Dec 08, 2008 6:11pm

    gridonic

    231 posts

    Great, can’t wait!

    The change from weblog to channel is appreciated, weblog was a wrong terminology because it’s mostly so much more than a weblog we use in the templates.

  • #4 / Dec 08, 2008 6:17pm

    Low

    407 posts

    Collaboration with @erskinedesign, that’s a good move. And about that example site… wouldn’t happen to be jambor-ee.com, would it? 😊

  • #5 / Dec 08, 2008 6:22pm

    Leslie Camacho

    1340 posts

    Collaboration with @erskinedesign, that’s a good move. And about that example site… wouldn’t happen to be jambor-ee.com, would it? 😊

    ha! No, its not. Poor Jamie. Speaking of which, he’s doing a seminar on EE at Future of Web Design (London) 2009:

    http://events.carsonified.com/fowd/2009/london/speakers

    I believe the title of his seminar is “Building Beautiful Websites with ExpressionEngine”. I really wish I could attend.

  • #6 / Dec 08, 2008 6:25pm

    Ryan Essmaker

    14 posts

    Very exciting! Glad to hear that you guys chose Erskine.

  • #7 / Dec 08, 2008 6:31pm

    Mark Bowen

    12637 posts

    All sounds good. Will we still be able to change the term used (channel) though in the admin side of things though?

  • #8 / Dec 08, 2008 6:36pm

    Derek Jones

    7561 posts

    All sounds good. Will we still be able to change the term used (channel) though in the admin side of things though?

    No; doing so in 1.x made sense when the word “weblog” was confusing or a turnoff to clients.  Now the terminology is clear, correct, and for consistency’s sake, it is not modifiable, just like any other core component of ExpressionEngine.  Templates are templates, fields are fields, categories are categories, channels are channels.  The control panel, tags, user guide, etc. will now always match each other in all installations.  Yay!

  • #9 / Dec 08, 2008 6:54pm

    Dave_H

    73 posts

    Yes, this all seems to be leading the right way with renaming etc. Excellent work. This will be a new frontier for all of us!

  • #10 / Dec 08, 2008 7:05pm

    Erdal Demirtas

    84 posts

    All this sounds very good!

    I think such an “Example Site” will improve overall quality of EE-Sites which is also good for EL and I hope you will get less support requests, as the “Example Site” will contain lots of answers.

  • #11 / Dec 08, 2008 7:37pm

    Tyssen

    756 posts

    Any chance the Erskine team might be invited to help clean up the HTML/CSS of things like the members’ area, forum etc.? Because I’ve often thought that some of the mark-up there kinda let the side down considering the sort of standards-aware designers/developers who champion the use of EE.

  • #12 / Dec 08, 2008 8:17pm

    stinhambo

    1268 posts

    Any chance the Erskine team might be invited to help clean up the HTML/CSS of things like the members’ area, forum etc.? Because I’ve often thought that some of the mark-up there kinda let the side down considering the sort of standards-aware designers/developers who champion the use of EE.

    I’d assume that a lot of table based stuff will be replaced but it depends on whether it’s worth the hassle of catering for IE6 users.

    Of course EllisLab could make a stand and say NO to IE6 😊

  • #13 / Dec 08, 2008 8:29pm

    Jason McCallister

    255 posts

    I think the idea for one demo site is a great idea. I would also recommend a nice default theme. I know not everyone want’s a generic theme but I think you should “one up” WordPress and provide a well thought out theme for a nice looking site right after the install. I know some people wont like it but I think it would help give EE that exposure you are looking for.

  • #14 / Dec 08, 2008 8:51pm

    Sean C. Smith

    3818 posts

    Ooo very exciting. Time to use TV analogies when explaining to clients. “okay, when you want info on this page you change the channel.”

  • #15 / Dec 08, 2008 8:53pm

    Jason McCallister

    255 posts

    Ooo very exciting. Time to use TV analogies when explaining to clients. “okay, when you want info on this page you change the channel.”

    Great… you just took it to a whole new level….  😊

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