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December 08, 2008 5:49pm

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  • #46 / Dec 09, 2008 2:07pm

    Derek Jones

    7561 posts

    Or even your own starting templates, if it suits you.

  • #47 / Dec 09, 2008 2:16pm

    Ryan Irelan

    444 posts

    I want to make clear that from a developer standpoint that this is purely a change in terminology. In other words, this:

    {exp:weblog:entries weblog="bands"}
    is equal to:

    {exp:channel:entries channel="bands"}

    So, this means I could continue using {exp:weblog:entries} tag pairs in my templates and EE would parse them?

  • #48 / Dec 09, 2008 2:24pm

    Derek Jones

    7561 posts

    So, this means I could continue using {exp:weblog:entries} tag pairs in my templates and EE would parse them?

    Yes, since the muscle memory may have a lot of inertia at the beginning, this will keep working, and log an error to your template parsing log to help you catch it.  I expect by 2.1 we’ll remove it entirely so it would generate a usual page-breaking tag error.

  • #49 / Dec 09, 2008 2:24pm

    Fábio Marchi

    103 posts

    I think with

    {exp:content:entries content=“principal”}

    the word “content” applies better then weblog, channel or section… content is content, be video, audio, articles or blogs, etc…

    Content !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • #50 / Dec 09, 2008 2:25pm

    Erskine

    46 posts

    Channel !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • #51 / Dec 09, 2008 2:26pm

    Ryan Irelan

    444 posts

    So, this means I could continue using {exp:weblog:entries} tag pairs in my templates and EE would parse them?

    Yes, since the muscle memory may have a lot of inertia at the beginning, this will keep working, and log an error to your template parsing log to help you catch it.  I expect by 2.1 we’ll remove it entirely so it would generate a usual page-breaking tag error.

    Thanks, Derek. Removing support in 2.1 seems fair to me.

  • #52 / Dec 09, 2008 2:29pm

    Derek Jones

    7561 posts

    I think with

    {exp:content:entries content=“principal”}

    the word “content” applies better then weblog, channel or section… content is content, be video, audio, articles or blogs, etc…

    Content !!!!!!!!!!!!

    As was already mentioned, content can come from many different locations in ExpressionEngine: templates, global variables, third party add-ons, etc.  The word content also fails miserably in documentation and conversational usage, e.g.  “Which content is the entry in?”, “You can specify multiple contents in this parameter with a pipe delimited list.”

  • #53 / Dec 09, 2008 2:30pm

    Leslie Camacho

    1340 posts

    I think with

    {exp:content:entries content=“principal”}

    the word “content” applies better then weblog, channel or section… content is content, be video, audio, articles or blogs, etc…

    Content !!!!!!!!!!!!

    Try writing meaningful documentation with this word. It doesn’t work very well. It also doesn’t describe how EE can be used. “You publish your content to the Content Module and the items in your content can be displayed…” Its actually too general and the word “content” itself is more useful to describe specific things then a general term used to describe how something can work.

  • #54 / Dec 09, 2008 2:31pm

    grantmx

    1439 posts

    I tend to use the term “bucket” when explaining to clients.  LOL

    I think the bottom line here is the name “weblog” is a bit confusing in the web 2.0 era, but it would be nice to give back the option to rename as we like, as in the 1.x versions.

    Is this nomenclature issue worthy of an outside focus group?

  • #55 / Dec 09, 2008 2:58pm

    Fábio Marchi

    103 posts

    hummmm…ok, “content” to me its more simple, coz i´m in Brazil.
    Channel its ok. Anything its better then weblog. I just understood this “weblog” concept after a couple months… 😉

  • #56 / Dec 09, 2008 3:45pm

    Crssp-ee

    572 posts

    I tend to use the term “bucket” when explaining to clients.  LOL

    Bucket brings to mind crock and slop, off the top of my head (and with my wry since of humor), but those are the first two things that came to mind. Nothing wrong with bucket, nothing at all. Time to do the chor-ee-s :ahhh: good call. Bucket is utilitarian for sure.

  • #57 / Dec 09, 2008 4:28pm

    Dan Decker

    7338 posts

    Finally, a discussion worth my 100th post…

    I’m with EllisLab on this one. Waiving the Channel Banner!

  • #58 / Dec 09, 2008 4:46pm

    xmasberry

    1 posts

    Not sure how I feel about ‘Channel’, but i definitely like it more than ‘Weblog’. I think it will require less explanation for customers because of the lack of baggage associated with the word in this context. For me, that is the most relevant part of the terminology change.

    Very much liking the idea of an educational set of templates. I’ve built my templates from scratch so far, but it is really helpful to see how other people choose to tackle things.

  • #59 / Dec 09, 2008 9:04pm

    Sean O'Brien

    78 posts

    Channel is the perfect choice.

    In the context of templates, each channel tag will allow data to flow through to the user.

    Generically, a channel itself doesn’t contain anything. It refers to a data set or a number on the remote, or waterway, among other things. A channel acts as a conduit allowing data - or water to flow through. As such, it is the perfect word to be used in place of Weblog, “channeling” data to specified locations with further specifics within the channel to parse the data.

    Looking forward to the new product launch. New Year’s Day would make a perfect release date.

  • #60 / Dec 09, 2008 9:37pm

    28Bytes

    192 posts

    Great, thanks for the update.

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