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Steven, with the proper Spaces setup, 13” is perfect for development.  I can’t imagine a portable being any larger - if they made a MBP in 13” I’d buy it in a heartbeat.

Eek!!! Not if you’re both a developer and a designer!! 😉 My trusty MacBook Pro (17”) is perfect for everything and I take that everywhere with me. Not too big at all.

Also I work at high-res first and then bring it all down for final low-res work so that I get the best possible quality so screen real-estate is paramount to me 😊

That’s just me though.

Best wishes,

Mark

Well Mark, to be fair the question was about development 😊

I’ve had a 17” laptop for about 5 years and it’s a PITA.

I’d go 15 at best but the new MacBook and a 24” screen (for design) is perfect.

Well Mark, to be fair the question was about development 😊

Sorry. Although that’s why I placed the wink in there as well. Also depends what you class development to be as-well. Okay now I’m being pedantic.

I’ve had a 17” laptop for about 5 years and it’s a PITA.

I’d go 15 at best but the new MacBook and a 24” screen (for design) is perfect.

What’s been your problem with the 17” exactly. I wouldn’t trade mine in for anything at the moment as simply nothing comes close.

Best wishes,

Mark

Well Mark, to be fair the question was about development 😊

Sorry. Although that’s why I placed the wink in there as well. Also depends what you class development to be as-well. Okay now I’m being pedantic.

I’ve had a 17” laptop for about 5 years and it’s a PITA.

I’d go 15 at best but the new MacBook and a 24” screen (for design) is perfect.

What’s been your problem with the 17” exactly. I wouldn’t trade mine in for anything at the moment as simply nothing comes close.

Best wishes,

Mark

Big and heavy although I suspect it’s heavier than a 17” MacBook Pro. I want small and portable so the MacBook seems the perfect match 😊

Seriously considering selling my 17in MBP and getting a new 15in but only if I don’t have to pay any extra monies.

extra monies.

You been watching the Fonejacker by any chance? 😉

I need a new Macbook for my computings and programmings.

Talk to me 😉

Big and heavy although I suspect it’s heavier than a 17” MacBook Pro. I want small and portable so the MacBook seems the perfect match 😊

Ah right. Sorry I thought you had meant that you had a 17” MacBook not a PC notebook. All understood now.

I can safely say that the MacBook Pro is pretty light, well I think so anyway although I used to pick up exceptionally heavy equipment back in my day of being a music technician so the 17” is as light as a feather compared to those sorts of things 😉

Best wishes,

Mark

I can safely say that the MacBook Pro is pretty light, well I think so anyway although I used to pick up exceptionally heavy equipment back in my day of being a music technician…

I have a previous generation MacBook Pro but I always steal my wife’s MacBook if I have to travel far - just because it’s lighter. I wasn’t blessed with Mark Bowen’s muscles 😉

If I had to replace my computer today , though, I would still get another MacBook Pro for the extra graphics power and screen real estate.

Big and heavy although I suspect it’s heavier than a 17” MacBook Pro. I want small and portable so the MacBook seems the perfect match 😊

Ah right. Sorry I thought you had meant that you had a 17” MacBook not a PC notebook. All understood now.

I can safely say that the MacBook Pro is pretty light, well I think so anyway although I used to pick up exceptionally heavy equipment back in my day of being a music technician so the 17” is as light as a feather compared to those sorts of things 😉

Best wishes,

Mark

I just read the specs for mine and it weighs 4.1kg!!!

I just read the specs for mine and it weighs 4.1kg!!!

Ah there you go then. The MacBook Pro 17” is just 2.99 kg.

To me it feels just about right because not only would I feel that I have been diddled out of my money if it weighed much less than that but coming from a background of using Macs from since when they first came out I like a bit of weight to my Mac!!

Best wishes,

Mark

Mark I couldn’t disagree with you more.  I use Illustrator on my 13” just fine, thank you.  The right size notebook is the one you’ll use and take on the go.  Are you more productive with larger screen real estate?  Uncontested.  Are you productive if your notebook stays on your desk when you’re out?  That translates to, oh, zero Productivity Units.  I refuse to heft around 17” “portables”.

Mark I couldn’t disagree with you more.  I use Illustrator on my 13” just fine, thank you.  The right size notebook is the one you’ll use and take on the go.  Are you more productive with larger screen real estate?  Uncontested.  Are you productive if your notebook stays on your desk when you’re out?  That translates to, oh, zero Productivity Units.  I refuse to heft around 17” “portables”.

Derek please don’t take what I said previously as an insult. It was not meant like that at all. This is definitely one of those things which is different for different people.

Myself I used to work on a 12” monitor back in the day but just couldn’t possibly do that nowadays due to the work that I do and the way that I do that work. I not only do web-development and design for the internet but also page layout for magazine work using InDesign and myself couldn’t possibly use anything less than 17” to get everything done or I would be all over the place with palettes and zoom levels etc… 😉

For me the 17” is the right size notebook and definitely the one I have taken on the go everywhere. I have done photo-shoots all over the world in some of the most inhospitable conditions known to mankind and I have to say that my Mac saved the day every time. Saying that though if I even just had the smallest available Mac item known to mankind then that would have given me comfort too as I just love anything Mac related 😊

Am I more productive with more screen real-estate? I would have to say a definite yes to that as I work in everything from 3D applications and page layout to photography apps so for me this is a definite yes. Luckily I am one of the people who is happy to use the Tab command in Photoshop to hide the palettes as I know a lot of people who like to have a second monitor just for their palettes!! Aggghhh!!! Looking all the way to one side to find a brush or something else when you can just press tab, they must have money to burn!! 😉

As you say though this is definitely different for different people and totally depends a lot I guess on exactly what it is you are doing on your computer so I totally agree with you there. Myself though for development of a web-site I still like to work with my graphics at a really nice resolution and then size down afterwards and prefer to get more of the picture without zooming out and missing minute parts of the detail. Admittedly it’s not that much that goes missing but I just prefer a slightly bigger work area wherever I can.

Anyway hopefully you didn’t take what I said as an insult as it was far from that.

Best wishes,

Mark

I think you’re still missing my point.  The software that you use and what types of design and development work you do are less important than whether or not you’ll tote a given device around.  A skilled individual will become proficient with whatever that device is.

I think you’re still missing my point.  The software that you use and what types of design and development work you do are less important than whether or not you’ll tote a given device around.  A skilled individual will become proficient with whatever that device is.

Nope not missing your point at all, I totally get what you mean. Just saying that myself I would never go back to using a smaller screen and I can safely say that I have used my MacBook in much tighter spaces than most and definitely don’t mind carrying it in all sorts of places with me!

Backs of helicopters downloading images that I have literally just taken, backs of Jets the list is endless. If it’s a small space then I’ve probably been there and my MacBook too!! 😉

I totally agree with you though that you can become proficient with whatever the device is if required but I totally believe that for me it would slow me down if I had any smaller a monitor nowadays.

That’s for me though. For others it may be different.

Anyway I’m going to sign out of this thread for a while and get back to my underground hovel 😊

Best wishes,

Mark