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March 08, 2008 10:33am

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  • #151 / Mar 10, 2008 6:25am

    narration

    773 posts

    Very welcome answers, from Rick and Leslie, in different styles as appropriate.

    Thank you, and to the Ellis Labs team.  EE 2.0 definitely looks on a good path, and you see that we are all looking forward.

    Sleep deprivation deserves catchup, and so does extraordinary effort.  See you when you surface.

    Kind regards,
    Clive

  • #152 / Mar 10, 2008 6:52am

    Jan_Huygens

    106 posts

    Can’t wait - looks excellent 😊

    [well - guess I can]

    one small hope - that category selection in entries will use Cocaholics good idea!

  • #153 / Mar 10, 2008 7:45am

    markwts

    38 posts

    Hey Guys, some official images.

    http://www.derekallard.com/blog/post/expressionengine-20-official-screenshots/

    First thing not a developer just my 2 cents from a client usability perspective 😉

    Having quite a bit of experience with small business websites over the years, and watching / supporting people trying to use (struggling unless I provided a lot of support!) various CMS’, the complicated look of the EE interface concerned me a little for “ease of use” for clients. These screen shots make me a feel a lot better about that aspect of EE - the interface usability-wise is 100% better. And I’m sure you developer folk will be able to tinker under the hood to implement any tweaks you so desire 😉

    So from a non-developer type who just sells websites to small business owners, initially I’m impressed with the new interface from the screengrabs.

    Anyway big test will be when clients start using it 😉

  • #154 / Mar 10, 2008 8:57am

    Dom Stubbs

    156 posts

    This looks to be a very positive step forward for EE and I can’t wait to get my grubby mitts on a copy. I share some of the concerns of previous posters but it sounds as though it’ll be a breeze to resolve UI concerns even if they don’t go away before release.

    The additional controls look promising. I would love it if EE 2.0 made it possible for me to ditch TinyMCE and its add-ons forever.

  • #155 / Mar 10, 2008 9:34am

    Yvonne Martinsson

    204 posts

    I once choose pMachine because of its slogan ‘Publish your universe.’ Later I migrated to EE and it has been a great joy ever since, but ‘publish your universe’ became too narrow a term. At the same time I grew weary of the technophilia of Web 2.0 and wanted a web with content again. I couldn’t be more happy when I read Rick’s short bio and his vision of creating a ‘meaningful web.’ So, I’m confident that the merging of CI and EE will enable a more meaningful web and I stay, hoping that ‘meaningful’ means about the same to the two of us.

    Concerning the UI of EE 2.0,  I remember some research done on web design where the conclusion was that women prefer rounded forms and pastels, men square forms and subdued colours such as dark blue, you can think about that all you men out there who have issues with Veerle’s design. I find the light orange and green quite joyous and creative. But, it’s the structure of the CP that is most important and it seems to be highly improved - content managment in one place, member management in another and separated from the admin area and so on.

  • #156 / Mar 10, 2008 10:01am

    Brendon Carr

    135 posts

    Extensive customizability of the Control Panel—Will we really template it like any other EE page? Cool—is really exciting news, and something I had been hoping to hear from the crew with this 2.0 release. Imagine how much other hot stuff awaits us.

  • #157 / Mar 10, 2008 10:05am

    dhunwick73

    1 posts

    I hope this has not been asked and answered already but for anyone there or the EE staff is there any hint of LDAP integration in the 2.0 release? Thanks for your time.

  • #158 / Mar 10, 2008 10:12am

    stinhambo

    1268 posts

    I hope this has not been asked and answered already but for anyone there or the EE staff is there any hint of LDAP integration in the 2.0 release? Thanks for your time.

    My guess is no but with CI you could get it done now.

  • #159 / Mar 10, 2008 11:32am

    ignite

    149 posts

    Regarding the CP design:  A major goal of the 2.0 CP (beyond the biggest goal of making the CP much more user friendly)  was to enable much more customization of the look. The current 1.x version only allows CSS changes, limiting the degree to which changes can take place.  2.0 will allow total customization, since most of the markup is now in HTML files.  We intend to offer at least two or three default themes, with one being more conservative and business-like, and I have no doubt that within a short time of release, many community members will create their own looks.

    That’s perfect. UI wise, that’s a great move and makes EE even that much more flexible. 😊

    Later this week once we’re all home we will be unveiling an area of our site that will give people a lot more info, including a video screencast and answers to many of the questions people have been asking.

    Can’t wait for this! I hope you guys cover in much more detail the integration between CI and EE. Also it would be great to see what’s involved in creating new themes for the CP.

    Thanks EllisLab for all your hard work on this. It’s nice to see it’s just around the corner now.

  • #160 / Mar 10, 2008 11:37am

    Simon Cox

    405 posts

    This all sounds great to me especially the commerce part - I was expecting to have to wait 12 months after release for that and the suggestions are that I will not which is great. One thing I hope you have considered for 2 is the way upgrades take place. I am a long time user of Invision Power Forums and their upgrade system is quite superb - you upload a package and it goes through an automated update routine. Essential to this was splitting off the additional non standard modules, extensions and plug-ins to their own directory but the biggest saving would be in support time. With v1.x its very easy to get the upgrade wrong or half done or something missed and I can imagine the amount of support posts will drop. As for the v2 release dates - I fully agree with the line Ellis labs are taking on this. I will update my clients sites to v2 only when I am fully conversant with v2 and that could take months. So any new projects I take on this year will be on 1.x. (apart from my own site but I don’t mind screwing that up!)

  • #161 / Mar 10, 2008 11:46am

    Daniel Walton

    553 posts

    Aha! Collection!

  • #162 / Mar 10, 2008 6:47pm

    Colin Scroggins

    4 posts

    @Carlo: Agreed! While it is nice to have the page-based uploads, I want site or enterprise level media/file management. I want to be able to upload YUI & Blueprint files, or template images through the interface, rather than having to FTP into a directory. I also want to be able to upload template files, rather than having to copy and paste into a blank one (ie: upload a file based CSS for use, rather than copying and pasting it).

    It’s great to hear that Rick. CP customization is something we are all excited about! All other platforms don’t offer flexibility in this way and EE2.0 having it is incredible news. Congrats on the excellent product you have been working on for so long.. it’s simply amazing!

  • #163 / Mar 10, 2008 7:41pm

    e-man

    1816 posts

    One thing I hope you have considered for 2 is the way upgrades take place.

    I’ll echo that sentiment 😊 An easier upgrade method would be much appreciated so I don’t have to reinstall plugins and modules every time there’s a point update.

    I’m really looking forward to taking the new CP for a spin, I always felt that it could be improved upon and apparently steps are underway to do so. I’m not too keen on the color scheme I’ve seen, but if it’s skinnable then huray! I’m sure Veerle is doing a great job.

    CI integration, what can I say 😊 This rocks!

  • #164 / Mar 10, 2008 8:33pm

    Yoshi

    39 posts

    EE 2.0 looks exciting. :D I’m not too keen on the overall look, but only because it kinda reminds me of WP :/ but I do like that it’s theme-able. I’m ready for it.

    I guess I’m glad that i’m semi-familiar with CI, since that will help with any plugins/modules I’ll have to update for 2.0.

    What I was wondering about (and this is probably not the right place to ask this) : where will there be an announcement for developers to get their hands on a beta build of ee 2.0 to update their plugins/modules?

    I’d say the developer mailing list would make sense, but I haven’t heard from that in so long..it makes me wonder if it still exists. Or do I have to sign up for something again?

    Anyways, keep up the awesome work, I’m ready to update any plugins and modules if necessary. I totally wish I was at SXSW to see everything!

  • #165 / Mar 10, 2008 9:52pm

    cjorgensen

    393 posts

    I heard it was coming out Wednesday. Just what I heard.  😜

    Seriously though, does my annual subscription cover the cost of this? I ask for two reasons:

    1. I need to start saving now if it doesn’t
    2. I’m not paying for the subscription reminder I just got in email if it doesn’t.

    Pretty sure I know the answer, but be nice to hear.

    I also wonder about migrating my current sites. I am sure it will be pretty easy…or am I being naive?

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