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For those of you getting antsy about how long you’ll have to wait, I imagine the EllisLab release of ExpressionEngine 2.0 is right around the corner—a month or two. That was the story with ExpressionEngine, which was released for a semi-public beta and then out to the public what seemed like a couple of hours later.

Smart developers understand the Osborne Effect—preview what’s coming Real Soon Now™ too far in advance, and kill your current sales. Announcing the next big thing can drive you into bankruptcy before you can finish it! Rick’s been through an upgrade/update cycle before, and isn’t about to let the Osborne Effect bring down the company. And note that this company is particularly tight with hints about future developments. If we’ve been allowed to see this, that means its arrival is a matter of a few days away.

Anyway, they’ll never tell us.

that means its arrival is a matter of a few days away.

I would love to see it in a few days if you are right but I would think that it will probably take a little longer than that though. Hope you are right though. I would just like to see it before my 34th birthday though, or maybe on my birthday in a nice neatly wrapped box would also be nice 😉

Best wishes,

Mark

“A few days” doesn’t mean “five to seven”—it’s more like 30-90.

Hmm,

That’s a weird ‘few days’ 😉

“A few days” doesn’t mean “five to seven”—it’s more like 30-90.

On my planet that means a few months 😊

I would be extremely surprised if it was out before September.

I would be extremely surprised if it was out before September.

Well then there goes my birthday present!! :-(

😉

Best wishes,

Mark

Looks good, hope it’s out soon we can start building on it. Read the whole thread and I didn’t see it covered yet… will EE 2.0 be faster and more efficient? Performance is a big issue for us.

Performance is a big issue for us.

You mean you have performance issues with EE 1.6.2?

I finally got a chance to read the entire thread! Its exciting to finally have a chance to see ANYTHING of EE2.0. The new interface is a lot better but I have to agree with those who say that the whole look feels very “non-pro?”. Don’t get me wrong.. the whole position and layout is simply perfect, i’m just skepticall about the colors and big headers. Other than that I stoked about these new events!

One thing I still haven’t heard anything about is pertaining to a file manager for this new version. Will EE2.0 include something to manage files, their descriptions, locations, permissions, etc.?? That’s the only thing I could really say I would want for 2.0 😊

I’m very sleep deprived and the alarm is going off in five hours so I need to make this brief…

Regarding the CP design:  A major goal of the 2.0 CP (beyond the biggest goal of making the CP much more user friendly)  was to enable much more customization of the look. The current 1.x version only allows CSS changes, limiting the degree to which changes can take place.  2.0 will allow total customization, since most of the markup is now in HTML files.  We intend to offer at least two or three default themes, with one being more conservative and business-like, and I have no doubt that within a short time of release, many community members will create their own looks.

Later this week once we’re all home we will be unveiling an area of our site that will give people a lot more info, including a video screencast and answers to many of the questions people have been asking.

It’s great to hear that Rick. CP customization is something we are all excited about! All other platforms don’t offer flexibility in this way and EE2.0 having it is incredible news. Congrats on the excellent product you have been working on for so long.. it’s simply amazing!

As Rick already mentioned and we’ve promised before, we’re going to make all the information we talked about here public as soon as we can.

We leave for home at 5:45am so I suppose I should get to sleep but I’m hoping we can get the stuff up by Tuesday or Wednesday of this week.

One thing I want to point out is that late last year we publicly stated that we were going to start being more open about what we were doing, etc… and I hope that our showing at SXSW makes it more obvious that we’re sticking to that commitment. We made this clear in the Q&A;here at SXSW.

Speaking of which, SXSW is supposed to release podcast style recordings of all the panels, including ours, and we’ll link those as soon as they are available. Also, Andru from Gear Live recorded a couple of the sessions on his very beautiful HD Video camera and I believe he plans to release those as well (though I don’t know for sure).

About the release date…. Its not April 1st. This was addressed in the Q & A Panel and the honest answer is that there isn’t a release date and I want to be clear about this.

Its not that we have one that we’re keeping secret, its that the way we develop involves a total lack of release dates. We, honest to God, do not have a release date, even internally. Its simply not how we work. For those of you have concerns with this, my reply is that our system of development has produced one of the best web publishing systems on the planet and not having release dates and roadmaps is part of the price we all pay for that. We think its worth it.

That being said, it obviously behooves us to get this sucker out as fast as possible and if we didn’t think we could deliver in a reasonable amount of time we’d never have shown 2.0. As others have point out in this thread that would be very stupid of us to do that. At some point in the near future we will do our best to give a general time frame along with more information. We’ll do our best to not leave you in the dark, pull as little surprises on people as possible, and make this whole process as pleasant as possible while still giving space and respect to our development process and the private logistics involved in releasing a major web application.

As Rick already mentioned and we’ve promised before, we’re going to make all the information we talked about here public as soon as we can.

Excellent! Videos would be very much appreciated. Can’t wait to see what you were all up to out there 😊

For those of you have concerns with this, my reply is that our system of development has produced one of the best web publishing systems on the planet and not having release dates and roadmaps is part of the price we all pay for that. We think its worth it.

I have to say that I think this is one of the most truthful paragraphs I have ever read in my entire life. My hat goes off to such a fantastic team of coders and support staff who have definitely made the absolute best publishing system this side of the Milky Way! 😉

Thanks to all of you for even giving us what we have now as I’m sure there must have been many hundreds of sleepless nights in creating the V1 branch of EE.

You are all fantastic and I am sure that we will all be blown away when we get to see 2.0.

You all go and take a rest now, you deserve it.

Best wishes,

Mark

Congratulations to EllisLab—and indeed to all of us users—on this ambitious and wise strategy of making EE2 a CI application.