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I suspect a good ecommerce module is larger and more complex than EE and all of it’s modules combined.  Not to mention the documentation and homework Ellis Lab has to do in order to support the product.

Stephen is correct here.  It has been a truly immense project, particularly given the tiny size of our dev team, which not only must advance EE itself but squash bugs and help with support.  If I could magically make a commerce system appear I would.  It’s been the single most requested item, and one that I believe will be very successful for us.

A commerce system, when you consider everything it needs to do, from shipping, to collecting tax (the state of New York alone has a couple hundred different tax rates), to discounts, to coupons, to financial reporting, to integration with all the different credit card processing gateways, to management of products, to security, etc., is really a large software application in its own right.  It will likely eclipse the size of all our other modules combined.

People sometimes think we’re a big company because we have a nice site and a large community, but we’re actually a pretty small team.  Until a couple years ago it was basically Paul and I, so we are growing, fortunately, which means our development is getting faster.  The bottom line is we’re doing the best we can, and as another person mentioned, we really do care about our product and our community, and we do try to make decisions that are in the best interest of everyone.

Sure, I’d like a e-commerce module NOW, but EllisLab has an excellent record for putting out quality. I trust you guys to do it right, as fast you can.

I suspect a good ecommerce module is larger and more complex than EE and all of it’s modules combined.  Not to mention the documentation and homework Ellis Lab has to do in order to support the product.

Stephen is correct here.  It has been a truly immense project, particularly given the tiny size of our dev team, which not only must advance EE itself but squash bugs and help with support.  If I could magically make a commerce system appear I would.  It’s been the single most requested item, and one that I believe will be very successful for us.

A commerce system, when you consider everything it needs to do, from shipping, to collecting tax (the state of New York alone has a couple hundred different tax rates), to discounts, to coupons, to financial reporting, to integration with all the different credit card processing gateways, to management of products, to security, etc., is really a large software application in its own right.  It will likely eclipse the size of all our other modules combined.

People sometimes think we’re a big company because we have a nice site and a large community, but we’re actually a pretty small team.  Until a couple years ago it was basically Paul and I, so we are growing, fortunately, which means our development is getting faster.  The bottom line is we’re doing the best we can, and as another person mentioned, we really do care about our product and our community, and we do try to make decisions that are in the best interest of everyone.

Hi Rick,

Will you be assembling an advisory board of e-commerce developers to help with the most important features for the Full E-Commerce Module?

I think it will help you tighten it down based on developers experiences on what really should go in there as well as your own good ideas.

Lastly (if this is the case) I think you should say you aim to release it as part of EE 2.0 as it will stop threads like this developing. That said, it would be great to be spoon fed the odd blog post letting us know about the development so far without speaking about specific features (as we all know they could change).

Lastly (if this is the case) I think you should say you aim to release it as part of EE 2.0 as it will stop threads like this developing.

Wouldn’t that be giving an “ETA” of sorts which they have clearly stated they won’t do?

Lastly (if this is the case) I think you should say you aim to release it as part of EE 2.0 as it will stop threads like this developing.

Wouldn’t that be giving an “ETA” of sorts which they have clearly stated they won’t do?

Not really as ETA means Estimated TIME of Arrival. Saying that it will ship with EE 2.0 doesn’t pin them down to any time as they haven’t announced an ETA for that either.

So, how is that better/different than saying “it will be ready when it’s ready” (incidentally, that’s true for EE 2.0 as well.)

So, how is that better/different than saying “it will be ready when it’s ready” (incidentally, that’s true for EE 2.0 as well.)

Because it will stop people thinking it will be released soon. Well it was just a thought. I think there is value in letting people know that it needs to be tied into a new EE architecture (conjecture).

Rick...A commerce system, when you consider everything it needs to do, from shipping, to collecting tax (the state of New York alone has a couple hundred different tax rates), to discounts, to coupons, to financial reporting, to integration with all the different credit card processing gateways, to management of products, to security, etc., is really a large software application in its own right.

Having been through one, I can attest to that. It’s mind boggling.