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CodeIgniter changes license to OSL 3.0?

October 21, 2011 6:55am

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  • #61 / Oct 29, 2011 10:15pm

    Sire

    109 posts

    Really loving the input from the admins.

    It almost seems like one guy just decided he liked the OSL 3.0, and that was that.

  • #62 / Oct 29, 2011 10:19pm

    moodh

    94 posts

    Really loving the input from the admins.

    It almost seems like one guy just decided he liked the OSL 3.0, and that was that.

    Or they did what they felt they needed for their own company and their own FREE product.
    If they want to comment the change I’m sure they will, with or without those stupid comments you just threw at them.

  • #63 / Oct 30, 2011 4:09am

    deckard

    20 posts

    Or they did what they felt they needed for their own company and their own FREE product.
    If they want to comment the change I’m sure they will, with or without those stupid comments you just threw at them.

    And here is where you are wrong already. It is NOT _their_ free product because it has been contributed to by many others whose rights are obviously ignored. That’s usually the reason why you cannot just put a new license on it without getting agreement from all the past contributors.

    Please do not insult other people because they are asking for feedback from EllisLab.

  • #64 / Oct 30, 2011 5:00am

    Sire

    109 posts

    Really loving the input from the admins.

    It almost seems like one guy just decided he liked the OSL 3.0, and that was that.

    Or they did what they felt they needed for their own company and their own FREE product.
    If they want to comment the change I’m sure they will, with or without those stupid comments you just threw at them.

    The thread began 9 days ago.  We’ve heard rumor that there was a discussion, but no one has commented.  We’ve asked if there was a specific reason OSL 3.0 was chosen over something more compatible like MIT or BSD.  Have you seen a response yet?  I haven’t.  I’m assuming that means one of two things;  1.  no one really knows yet, or 2.  no one wants to say.  Neither of those make me feel confident that the future of CodeIgniter is in good shape.

    This is a good question.  Once you start attacking people for asking the question, you know something’s wrong.

     

  • #65 / Oct 30, 2011 6:56am

    deckard

    20 posts

  • #66 / Oct 30, 2011 8:59am

    kenjis

    118 posts

    http://codeigniter.uservoice.com/forums/40508-codeigniter-reactor/suggestions/2344554-gpl-compatible-non-copyleft-popular-licesne?ref=title

    Got 150 votes and 57 supporters.

    If you also want GPL compatible non-copyleft popular licesne, you can express your opinion to EllisLab by voting it.

    And let’s wait for EllisLab’s comments.

  • #67 / Oct 30, 2011 9:04am

    Thecodingdude

    15 posts

    http://codeigniter.uservoice.com/forums/40508-codeigniter-reactor/suggestions/2344554-gpl-compatible-non-copyleft-popular-licesne?ref=title

    Got 150 votes and 57 supporters.

    If you also want GPL compatible non-copyleft popular licesne, you can express your opinion to EllisLab by voting it.

    And let’s wait for EllisLab’s comments.

    Honestly, I’m under the impression Ellislab doesn’t care.

    In my opinion, it’d be great to have a COMMUNITY only framework, one where the community decides every rule in the book - I hate people changing things behind our back.

    Furthermore, Ellislab doesn’t need to look very far to get the general consensus about the new license change.

    If they want to lose new members of the community and damage a popular framework - go right ahead. I for one will still use it, just an older version 😊

  • #68 / Oct 30, 2011 9:40am

    kenjis

    118 posts

    Honestly, I’m under the impression Ellislab doesn’t care.

    Silence might make you feel so.

    It is better that you remember CodeIgniter Reactor, which was community branch of CodeIgniter. EllisLab reacted to the community, development process is much more open, community friendly than before Reactor. Reactor has become one and only CodeIgniter this summer.

    If you want a community only framework, there is Kohana.

     

  • #69 / Oct 30, 2011 12:52pm

    Adam Griffiths

    316 posts

    But CodeIgniter doesn’t use OSL. The development branch can use the “I like Chickens” license and it doesn’t actually mean anything until it’s released.

    That means… wait for it… WIKIPEDIA IS WRONG!

    Woah.

    But CodeIgniter v3 is under OSL…and AFL…even though reading through various posts here, online resources and the licenses themselves, seem to conflict. The code is out there with a license, so it’s released.

  • #70 / Oct 30, 2011 1:00pm

    Thecodingdude

    15 posts

    Honestly, I’m under the impression Ellislab doesn’t care.

    Silence might make you feel so.

    It is better that you remember CodeIgniter Reactor, which was community branch of CodeIgniter. EllisLab reacted to the community, development process is much more open, community friendly than before Reactor. Reactor has become one and only CodeIgniter this summer.

    If you want a community only framework, there is Kohana.

    Funny you mention that, I have started to begin to learn it.

    As for the community, I’ve seen so many pull requests and so little done 😊

  • #71 / Oct 31, 2011 6:49am

    kenjis

    118 posts

    I wrote a blog article:

    Some anxieties about CodeIgniter license change to OSL
    http://d.hatena.ne.jp/Kenji_s/20111031/1320057364

  • #72 / Oct 31, 2011 10:58am

    Derek Jones

    7561 posts

    Commentary from EllisLab is coming soon; there are both legal reasons for the delay (attorneys don’t much like us talking about licenses) and a practical one: the dev team was traveling back from New York last week and busy catching up on a week’s worth of work missed, including planning the next iteration of EE, our CEO is in the process moving, and I was away from a computer the entire week.

  • #73 / Oct 31, 2011 10:59am

    Derek Jones

    7561 posts

    You can apply any license to your own code that you choose and that will not affect Ellislab’s rights to their license or you to yours.

    An extremely sane and succinct statement.

  • #74 / Oct 31, 2011 11:17pm

    kenjis

    118 posts

    EllisLab’s the first announcement:

    Software License Awareness Week
    http://ellislab.com/blog/entry/software_license_awareness_week

  • #75 / Nov 01, 2011 9:21pm

    kenjis

    118 posts

    Jason Cleeland

    I oppose the change to OSL - this unannounced change is outrageous and represents a serious breach of trust with all the users who took on faith that CI would remain GPL compatible. This surprise change of direction is inexplicable and will cause serious problems for the projects of mine that use CodeIgniter.

    http://codeigniter.uservoice.com/forums/40508-codeigniter-reactor/suggestions/2344554-gpl-compatible-non-copyleft-popular-licesne

     

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