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The End (of Beta) is Near: What You Need to Know

June 18, 2010 6:25pm

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  • #1 / Jun 18, 2010 6:25pm

    Leslie Camacho

    1340 posts

    EllisLab CTO Derek Jones announced during EECI2010 that the next build of ExpressionEngine will be 2.1. This will be the first non-beta release and officially mark the end of the beta. The release date given at EECI2010 was “Soon” and today we’re updating the release date to “Near.”

    The end of beta will mean some important changes at ExpressionEngine.com and we want to give the Community sufficient time to prepare. Here is what you need to know.

    Continue reading…

  • #2 / Jun 18, 2010 6:33pm

    Matt Weinberg

    489 posts

    Trying to answer the “what do you access every day” question, the parse order wiki entry is something I constantly look to:

    http://expressionengine.com/wiki/Parse_Order/

  • #3 / Jun 18, 2010 6:37pm

    Leslie Camacho

    1340 posts

    Trying to answer the “what do you access every day” question, the parse order wiki entry is something I constantly look to:

    http://expressionengine.com/wiki/Parse_Order/

    Thanks slapshotw, this is exactly the type of feedback that will be useful as we make the transition.

  • #4 / Jun 18, 2010 7:03pm

    lealea

    202 posts

    Not necessarily daily, but definitely useful since Ryan Irelan pointed it out in EE Insider: http://expressionengine.com/wiki/Config_Overrides/

  • #5 / Jun 18, 2010 7:04pm

    GDmac - expocom

    350 posts

    Leslie, no word about updates for 2.x beta users about licensing. From what i remember, 2.0beta would be licensed by version (instead of anual update fees) and 2.1 would probably be licensed anew. Do we need to buy new 2.1 licenses for current 2.0 installs and what is the upgrade path in the 2.x series?

  • #6 / Jun 18, 2010 8:00pm

    russlipton

    305 posts

    Congratulations!

    I am hoping for a post-July 1 release, so I can claim to have nailed the official release quarter, as per this thread polling the community for predictions.

    l worked up an informal time-flow of the 2.1 and 1.6.9 purchase, security, bug fix and support relationships for my own clarity and, pehaps, as a help to others - attached. Let me know if there are obvious errors ... that was part of my reason for the exercise.

  • #7 / Jun 18, 2010 9:09pm

    stinhambo

    1268 posts

    What if any major add-ons aren’t available by the time 2.1 is out?

    I’m looking at Structure and CartThrob.

  • #8 / Jun 18, 2010 9:17pm

    russlipton

    305 posts

    What if any major add-ons aren’t available by the time 2.1 is out?

    I’m looking at Structure and CartThrob.

    Why would that matter? It isn’t up to EllisLabs to wait upon third-party addons. Anyway, 1.6.9 is receiving direct EllisLab support for quite a while, as explained. As well, 1.6.9 with all currently working addons should function smoothly for at least the next two to three years, barring some bizarre change to the Web.

    I’m honestly perplexed by your comment; thinking I must have missed something. This said, will drop out of the thread, since it really is an EllisLabs announcement.

  • #9 / Jun 18, 2010 9:30pm

    Leslie Camacho

    1340 posts

    Leslie, no word about updates for 2.x beta users about licensing. From what i remember, 2.0beta would be licensed by version (instead of anual update fees) and 2.1 would probably be licensed anew. Do we need to buy new 2.1 licenses for current 2.0 installs and what is the upgrade path in the 2.x series?

    2.1 is a free update for EE 2.0 owners. EE 2.x will have both free and paid upgrades and will follow a more traditional software model. Security updates will always be free. We’ll have more the free/paid upgrade path around 2.1’s release.

  • #10 / Jun 18, 2010 9:35pm

    Leslie Camacho

    1340 posts

    What if any major add-ons aren’t available by the time 2.1 is out?

    I’m looking at Structure and CartThrob.

    Structure is already in beta testing for EE 2 and I know that Chris and the CartThrob team are hard at work on a EE 2 compatible release. I also have it on good authority that Solspace’s Tag is well on its way to being EE 2 ready.

    Bottom line developers have had well over a year to get add-ons prepped. We’ve been available to them, encouraged them, etc… Your best bet is to contact them directly and let them know you want X Add-on for 2 and what are their plans regarding such….

    This is also part of the reason we’ll continue to provide EE 1.x with new EE 2 purchases throughout the rest of 2010. Again, we don’t want to force people, but we certainly want to make clear that once EE 2.1 is in, EE 1.x is officially a legacy version that we will be phasing out in as gracious a manner possible.

    Edit: Also, Devot-ee’s EE 2 Add-on list is kept current, so that’s a great place to check to see what’s currently available and what isn’t.

  • #11 / Jun 18, 2010 10:48pm

    Linda A

    666 posts

    At this point, could we have a reminder of the upgrading options & costs for current 1.* license holders? 😊 Is there a point to renewing a 1.* license at this stage for the purpose of upgrading to 2.1 or does it not provide any cost benefits?

    Also, can you comment on whether an import option for Galleries will exist in 2.1 (and, if so, if Channels are getting any more functionality to make managing galleries easier)?

  • #12 / Jun 18, 2010 11:30pm

    Tyssen

    756 posts

    What if any major add-ons aren’t available by the time 2.1 is out?

    Could you not purchase a 2.x licence but just continue to use 1.6?

  • #13 / Jun 19, 2010 12:05am

    Leslie Camacho

    1340 posts

    At this point, could we have a reminder of the upgrading options & costs for current 1.* license holders? 😊 Is there a point to renewing a 1.* license at this stage for the purpose of upgrading to 2.1 or does it not provide any cost benefits?

    This is covered in the EE 2 Beta FAQ:

    What’s happening with Download Accounts?

    Basically if you upgrade from EE 1.x to EE 2.1 an active Download Account status is taken into consideration, just like it is now with EE 1.x to EE 2.0 Beta. We haven’t decided for certain if EE 1.x licenses that do not upgrade will need to continue to renew the Download Account in order to have download access. Right now we’re leaning that direction though.

    It may be more accurate to say EE 2.x will not make use of Download Accounts, though Download Accounts may continue for EE 1.x licenses that are not upgraded. We’ll have made that decision by 2.1’s release.

    Also, can you comment on whether an import option for Galleries will exist in 2.1 (and, if so, if Channels are getting any more functionality to make managing galleries easier)?

    In terms of features, EE 2.0 and EE 2.1 are nearly identical. The purpose of the beta was to make sure the core system is stable, secure, and performs as expected. All work has been toward those goals. This means all critical bugs are squashed, reported stability and performance issues addressed, and security vetted. We’ve also done a lot of work based on add-on developer feedback to mature how third-party add-ons work with 2.x.

    We’ll be addressing import options for the Gallery and feature improvements post 2.1 which is why, like everyone else, we’re excited that the beta cycle is nearing an end. The Gallery import options will be free. And yes, we know this will be frustrating for certain types of EE sites and I apologize for that.

  • #14 / Jun 19, 2010 12:06am

    Leslie Camacho

    1340 posts

    What if any major add-ons aren’t available by the time 2.1 is out?

    Could you not purchase a 2.x licence but just continue to use 1.6?

    Yes, the policy will be very similar to the current one for the EE 2.0 Beta covered in the FAQ.

  • #15 / Jun 19, 2010 1:18am

    Just a point of clarification. The way I read things, it won’t be possible to have a new 1.x license past the end of the year; only 2.1 licenses will be available. Correct?

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