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I understand everyone’s concerns about paying for a beta, but I’m not one of them and I’m TIRED OF BEING PATIENT, waiting for 2.0 to be released!  GIMME THE LINK!  I’m trying to throw money at you!

$$$ Three Benjamins are burning a hole in my paypal.

-OverMachoGrande

Just spoted the latest 1.6.8 build in Downloads is now dated today. Can’t be long now!

What?! I had a PUBLIC BETA Party scheduled for tonight at midnight. Now, with no link it seems like our first-in-line with sleeping bags for the past six months is all wasted. Why? WHY?!!! I even missed being in line for the Twilight New Moon movie.

I really thought EE 2.0 was going to solve the financial crisis, global warming, famine and world peace. I even thought it is what Mac guy and PC guy (from the commercials) needed as a token of friendship.

EE 2.0 PB, where are thou?

😉

So I just read through all the 2.0 forums and found out there will not be a free trial OR core version. I feel this is the wrong move and will have untold effects to EE.

I myself do not use the core free version myself, but this core version is what started me on the path of EE. I tried all the major CMS solutions before I choose the EE path. Without that I would have gone with another CMS solution.

The other death heal is all the bloggers that will no longer get a free version that add so much to the EE solutions in various ways.

I feel the talent of programmers that will now be lost to Wordpress and other open source and free CMS solutions will harm the long term add-on, growth, and options. Just look how many add-ons belong to the free CMS version verses EE. This divide will only get larger.

I’m currently working with 2 non-profit groups that I talked them into EE because they can use the core version. Then later when they want more they can upgrade down the road. Now they will become a Wordpress site with no hope of being a paid EE site down the road.

I really hope EE changes this and allows free non-profit version, or the migration and loss of future EE site will be a death foothold.

Then the 2.0 will not have a 2.1 upgrade path? So you want us to pay for a beta version that will require more money to get the version 2.1 once all is fixed is also mind blowing.

Looking for my 2.0 core link.

Mike

If Leslie would only imitate John Cleese in this commercial for Compaq in the 1980s, I believe all doubting of EllisLabs would be transformed into sheer amazement. Or something.

So I just read through all the 2.0 forums and found out there will not be a free trial OR core version. I feel this is the wrong move and will have untold effects to EE.

Not sure where you read that but that’s wrong.  Core is going away, a free trial will be available.

I feel the talent of programmers that will now be lost to Wordpress and other open source and free CMS solutions will harm the long term add-on, growth, and options. Just look how many add-ons belong to the free CMS version verses EE. This divide will only get larger.

Core users have not contributed significantly to released add-ons or development of the product.  I could probably count on one hand the number of add-ons that are distributed and supported by users who do not own a license.

Then the 2.0 will not have a 2.1 upgrade path? So you want us to pay for a beta version that will require more money to get the version 2.1 once all is fixed is also mind blowing.

Also wrong, both this forum thread and the FAQ clearly state that 2.1 is a free upgrade for people who purchase 2.0 Public Beta.

So I just read through all the 2.0 forums and found out there will not be a free trial OR core version.

Actually, there will be a free trial. Right on your server, too.

I’m currently working with 2 non-profit groups that I talked them into EE because they can use the core version. Then later when they want more they can upgrade down the road.

EE 1.6.8 will not go away. 1.6.8 Core will be still available, too.

Then the 2.0 will not have a 2.1 upgrade path? So you want us to pay for a beta version that will require more money to get the version 2.1 once all is fixed is also mind blowing.

What? 2.1 will be a free upgrade from 2.0 PB.

Then the 2.0 will not have a 2.1 upgrade path? So you want us to pay for a beta version that will require more money to get the version 2.1 once all is fixed is also mind blowing.

Not sure where you got that from… 2.1 will be a free upgrade from 2.0…

EDIT: Oops, too slow. 😊

Thanks for the clarification on the 2.0 >2.1, got spun around when I read about the no core. Big deal for me. And I must have missed all info about a trial version, only saw info about paid versions.

Yes 1.68 will still be available, but I will not use a solution that is free for this older version for non-profits that have no money. I will have to tell them about the version 2.0 costing money, they will choose the free version hands down, regardless of how much better EE is.

Being not in the loop of who makes all these wonderful add-ons and such. I only see how free open source CSM solutions have tons more add-ons added by a much larger community. If you compare the raw availability of add-ons between CMS solutions EE has the least.

I see the core version as a gateway for full EE version. If you remove the gateway CMS solution new users will just go to an open source CMS from the start and never truly experience the EE solution, trial or not.

Thanks for the corrections,

I only see how free open source CSM solutions have tons more add-ons added by a much larger community. If you compare the raw availability of add-ons between CMS solutions EE has the least.

I hear what you’re saying, but for most users, having to hunt through a million (often very bad) plugins to achieve basic functionality (*cough*Drupal*cough*Wordpress*) that EE includes out of the box is not exactly a feature.

Where is the download for today…I’m looking to start playing with this asap.

Waiting here as well. My hands are getting itchy!

So I just read through all the 2.0 forums and found out there will not be a free trial OR core version. I feel this is the wrong move and will have untold effects to EE.

I myself do not use the core free version myself, but this core version is what started me on the path of EE. I tried all the major CMS solutions before I choose the EE path. Without that I would have gone with another CMS solution.

The other death heal is all the bloggers that will no longer get a free version that add so much to the EE solutions in various ways.

I feel the talent of programmers that will now be lost to Wordpress and other open source and free CMS solutions will harm the long term add-on, growth, and options. Just look how many add-ons belong to the free CMS version verses EE. This divide will only get larger.

I’m currently working with 2 non-profit groups that I talked them into EE because they can use the core version. Then later when they want more they can upgrade down the road. Now they will become a Wordpress site with no hope of being a paid EE site down the road.

I really hope EE changes this and allows free non-profit version, or the migration and loss of future EE site will be a death foothold.

Then the 2.0 will not have a 2.1 upgrade path? So you want us to pay for a beta version that will require more money to get the version 2.1 once all is fixed is also mind blowing.

Looking for my 2.0 core link.

Mike

I agree with a lot of this. I’m in a similar position and posted something along these lines a week or two ago.

As a developer working with multiple clients (non-profits/educational sector), personally I feel like I really can only know a couple of systems with a really, really high level of expertise. By that I mean, knowing the system in and out, staying on top of updates, being part of the community, knowing exactly what the system limitations are and being aware of the plugins/solutions that have been made.

Dropping the core, essentially drops EE off of my “list” of my 1 or 2 systems I will strive to really stay on top of because it eliminates it as a potential solution for a significant percentage of my clients.

The thing is before with the core, being on top of everything EE, there were always the option to upgrade clients who did have the funds to the licensed version when needed. But now since I won’t be investing nearly as much time in EE with the core gone, Id rather recommended something to clients that I’m actually using day-in, day-out and know really, really well.

So long story short I’m looking for another option to replace EE as “go to solution” (ModX, Concrete5 etc etc) and really won’t be looking into EE too much into the future unless I find there is a very specific need for it.

Will it have negative impact on the use/exposure of EE down the road? Who knows? If every developer was like me I think it definitely would, but I’m afraid I’m in the very small minority, so maybe it won’t make a difference at all, and in that case I understand why they are discontinuing it.

1st december is almost over in switzerland! only 3 hours to go!
max. 9 hours to wait… finally!

looking for that link too!
cheers
stefan

Where is the 2.0 PB guys? 😊