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Windows 7 a KDE4 ripoff?

September 21, 2009 5:41pm

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  • #16 / Sep 23, 2009 5:26pm

    Yorick Peterse

    537 posts

    I’ve been running win7rc1 since it was released and have had Zero problems.  I even pre-ordered the full version—I’ve *never* paid for an OS before.

    IMO the its best running Desktop OS (by MS—not going to bring in the Mac people into the discussion) since Win2kPro.

    I’ve not used KDE4, and I’ve used OSX very little (again, not going there)... but I use Gnome somewhat frequently, so yeah, there are some similarities going on… but seriously… we are all a bunch of web developers who quite often mimic what other people have already done… we can’t bash anyone else for doing the same thing.

    Plus, I would have to say that I beat the crap out of this install as well…. installed on a 100GB hard drive that throws SMART errors (and only 8GB free right now, I play Crysis with it on occasion (yes, on High settings [4gb system ram and Raedeon 4850 w 1GB ram), oh and running triple monitors…

    You’re right, I don’t think theres going to be much of an uppset among webdesigners. But isn’t many viruses(windows) very much a result of how folks feel about Microsoft. What verdict will fall upon Microsoft now when they “steal” KDE4..?

    Nobody cares since nobody uses KDE or Gnome 😛

    So what old fashion stuff are you using..?  :coolhmm:

    OS/360 😛

  • #17 / Sep 23, 2009 7:37pm

    Colin Williams

    2601 posts

    Real interface and visual design is about what works best. It’s not about trends or popularity or getting somewhere first. It’s just a stupid discussion to have, and one we designers avoid.

  • #18 / Sep 24, 2009 2:25am

    überfuzz

    350 posts

    Real interface and visual design is about what works best. It’s not about trends or popularity or getting somewhere first. It’s just a stupid discussion to have, and one we designers avoid.

    Oh, so there are subjects regarding computers we shouldn’t discus, not even in the launch..? And I thought that the launch where just the place to talk about unrelated stuff, unrelated to web-design that is.  :roll:

  • #19 / Sep 24, 2009 2:55am

    Colin Williams

    2601 posts

    Just providing a designer’s perspective. Never said this thread was a waste of time, just that the discussion is meaningless in professional design circles, specifically as it pertains to UI

  • #20 / Sep 24, 2009 6:24am

    überfuzz

    350 posts

    Just providing a designer’s perspective. Never said this thread was a waste of time, just that the discussion is meaningless in professional design circles, specifically as it pertains to UI

    Ok, I got the notion that you where providing your perspective…

  • #21 / Sep 27, 2009 12:23am

    stjones911

    4 posts

    I’m using openSUSE as OS. Recently I saw windows 7 and my impression is that it seemed to be a ripoff. It felt suspiciously very much like KDE4 for Linux.

    Has anyone else tried windows 7?

    I just upgraded my laptop to W7 Ultimate from Vista Home Premium (which came with it a year ago). Visually, it’s a slightly shinier Vista. Dock and Aero-snap are nice. Feels faster than Vista, sexier than XP. FWIW.

  • #22 / Sep 27, 2009 12:35am

    stjones911

    4 posts

    Real interface and visual design is about what works best. It’s not about trends or popularity or getting somewhere first. It’s just a stupid discussion to have, and one we designers avoid.

    Seems to me that sometimes it is about trends and popularity. Sometimes “what works best” is dictated by de facto standards. For example, Nielsen talks about target acquisition - the screen corners and edges are the easiest targets to hit but designers never use them for clickable objects - users just wouldn’t accept that design. Sometimes the best approach is the most usable simply because it has become the most popular, i.e. a de facto standard.

    My $.02.

  • #23 / Oct 19, 2009 5:25pm

    mysoogal

    11 posts

    you cant buy windows 7 yet :O every body that has win 7 is using beta stages ! which do not reflect the optimized version the final version of windows 7.

    I’m going to use win 7 when its out, so far i have been using win2k alot and xp pro for gaming and ubuntu for web server :D

    i still believe win2k is the best, all over Linux operating systems share the same visual style, and code, some of them offer different features but end of the day its the same code, look at apple it looks like a ubuntu ripoff makes you wonder why its easy to make ubuntu look so much like a apple os right :p

  • #24 / Oct 19, 2009 6:15pm

    stjones911

    4 posts

    you cant buy windows 7 yet :O every body that has win 7 is using beta stages ! which do not reflect the optimized version the final version of windows 7.

    I lucked out - the university bookstore jumped the gun and had W7 Ultimate upgrade DVDs for a day or so, so I grabbed one. The more I use it, the more I like it. I’m even anxious to go through the pain of replacing a 3-year-old XP on my desktop.  Well, not the pain, but the payoff. ;^)

  • #25 / Oct 19, 2009 8:16pm

    CroNiX

    4713 posts

    And both Apple and Microsoft stole the icon-based gui from Xerox-PARC in the 80s…  And OSX is based on the KDE project, so its a rip off too.  Theres nothing new here…

  • #26 / Oct 19, 2009 8:43pm

    stjones911

    4 posts

    And both Apple and Microsoft stole the icon-based gui from Xerox-PARC in the 80s…

    At this point, I’d say they ripped off the basic concepts, but advanced them way beyond what Xerox PARC did.  A new wireless laser mouse is based on Doug Englebart’s original ideal, but the execution is far superior.

    FWIW, I was at the National Computer Conference in Chicago when Xerox introduced their Star system. The GUI with few changes showed up a few years later on the original Mac.

  • #27 / Oct 20, 2009 3:40am

    überfuzz

    350 posts

    And both Apple and Microsoft stole the icon-based gui from Xerox-PARC in the 80s…  And OSX is based on the KDE project, so its a rip off too.  Theres nothing new here…

    Quite right, but let’s not forget that its open source.

    @All - It’s actually very easy to get the mac look into a machine running on openSUSE. I’m running it on my comp sometimes. Theres often a person or two on the morning/afternoon train asking how I pimped my OS? so viciously. (ALL BLACK - with a metal feel to it.) I know it’s silly, no comment on that please. 😉

  • #28 / Oct 22, 2009 1:17am

    stuffradio

    378 posts

    I hate it when Apple laughs at Microsoft for not innovating, when lots of the things Apple “innovates” has already been done by someone else… and Apple tries to steal all the credits from that company.

  • #29 / Oct 22, 2009 2:58am

    überfuzz

    350 posts

    I hate it when Apple laughs at Microsoft for not innovating, when lots of the things Apple “innovates” has already been done by someone else… and Apple tries to steal all the credits from that company.

    Right on! I just saw a press release on Windoze 7. They’re really make it sound like they came up with all thing on their own. They could have been a bit more humble and say. We’ve seen these features in other OS. Now we’re incorporating it in Windoze.

  • #30 / Oct 22, 2009 3:45am

    CroNiX

    4713 posts

    I hate it when Apple laughs at Microsoft for not innovating, when lots of the things Apple “innovates” has already been done by someone else… and Apple tries to steal all the credits from that company.

    Right on! I just saw a press release on Windoze 7. They’re really make it sound like they came up with all thing on their own. They could have been a bit more humble and say. We’ve seen these features in other OS. Now we’re incorporating it in Windoze.

    Name one product that does that.

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