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SXSW Panels, UI Sprint, Usage Survey

August 25, 2009 7:33pm

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  • #1 / Aug 25, 2009 7:33pm

    Leslie Camacho

    1340 posts

    If you are doing a SXSW Panel that in some way involves ExpressionEngine or CodeIgniter, please post about it in the discussion thread for this post. We are putting together a blog post about all the EE SXSW panels in order to get them as many votes as possible. We know about Kenny Meyer’s & Happy Cog’s ExpressionEngine 2.0: Total Domination! panel, any others? I suspect so. Don’t be shy, let us know!

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  • #2 / Aug 25, 2009 8:01pm

    Riverboy

    2993 posts

    Nice news. Does that tracking be in EE2.0?
    Bring on the survey, i’ll be here to fill it within the first ones 😊

  • #3 / Aug 25, 2009 8:08pm

    highermedia

    5 posts

    Well I gave the panel a thumbs up, and I’ll be there too.

    As a CodeIgniter development firm, we have been waiting for ee2 with bated breath. Many times, I’ve made the mistake of telling a client during the early planning stages that ee2 might be out by the time coding begins - saying it may provide the ultimate merging of a powerful custom app framework and top-notch CMS tools. 

    The panelpicker has some intense competition, and a wide array of panels. If interested, I have a panel submitted on “Realizing the Power of Interactive Documentary”

    ...in case anyone wants to give us a hand, thumb, whatever.

    Keep up the great work guys! Cannot wait to see the fruits of your labor!

    Neil

  • #4 / Aug 25, 2009 8:13pm

    Dan Decker

    7338 posts

    This update is most encouraging!

    Keep up the great work guys.

  • #5 / Aug 25, 2009 11:07pm

    Sean C. Smith

    3818 posts

    new licensing sounds interesting. looking forward to learning more about that.

  • #6 / Aug 26, 2009 2:13am

    Omkar N.

    177 posts

    Thanks for the detailed update!

    I went to SXSW2007 just to see the EE2 preview and meet some EE folks.  It looks like I may need to make it to SXSW2009 too 😉

  • #7 / Aug 26, 2009 2:29am

    lebisol

    2234 posts

    new licensing sounds interesting. looking forward to learning more about that.

    Yeah same here and also like the fact that there is a set deadline.
    Thanks for the update!

  • #8 / Aug 26, 2009 5:47am

    onemanarmy

    23 posts

    Seriously, this is getting a bit annoying. I appreciate you being honest and open and all that. But this is starting to feel like a never-ending story, a show in procrastination.

    For every update I get my hopes up a bit, but I never really feel pleased after reading it. There’s no real answers, just tiny bits of information to buy you some more time. And the only thing I learned this time is that it’s going to take no longer than to march 2010 before it’s released. Hmm, that’s half a year. And at least another month before one more group of people can start testing ?

    Of course I’m writing this cause I think EE is a brilliant piece of software. I love it, and I want more. But it’s now almost 1,5 year since the first preview of EE 2, and we don’t even have a date. That’s just too long.

  • #9 / Aug 26, 2009 11:40am

    Charles Boudinot

    87 posts

    new licensing sounds interesting. looking forward to learning more about that.

    Looking forward to learning more about that myself.

  • #10 / Aug 26, 2009 1:12pm

    APGWest

    295 posts

    Seriously, this is getting a bit annoying. I appreciate you being honest and open and all that. But this is starting to feel like a never-ending story, a show in procrastination.

    For every update I get my hopes up a bit, but I never really feel pleased after reading it. There’s no real answers, just tiny bits of information to buy you some more time. And the only thing I learned this time is that it’s going to take no longer than to march 2010 before it’s released. Hmm, that’s half a year. And at least another month before one more group of people can start testing ?

    Of course I’m writing this cause I think EE is a brilliant piece of software. I love it, and I want more. But it’s now almost 1,5 year since the first preview of EE 2, and we don’t even have a date. That’s just too long.

    +1 to the above.

    It’s simple guys. I want to buy 2.0 based on its ability to address my business needs and goals, not based on your development techniques, nor on what panels we should see at SXSW.  So when you offer a 2.0 update that just discusses how you’re tweaking the control panel UI that 99% of us will never need to bother with, squeezed in between two irrelevant topics, it looks very much like you’re stretching.

    To further that, if the sprint you picked as priority is window dressing (I.E. the control panel UI), it implies your more critical features are in place and functioning properly for the most part.  Mix that with the declining trend of read/replies to your 2.0 updates and it becomes obvious (at least IMO) that some real information is needing to be released.  For example, pick a new small feature that is running rock solid in your 2.0 betas and give us a few paragraphs on it.  It would go a long way, I promise.  I know this from experience, not from being an armchair quarterback.

    I mean none of this as an insult to anyone and I hope it can be read as such. I’m just a huge fan of EE (else why would I even bother posting?) that wants to just put it out there for what it is.

  • #11 / Aug 26, 2009 1:32pm

    Leslie Camacho

    1340 posts

    No offense taken and appreciate the feedback as always.

  • #12 / Aug 26, 2009 1:45pm

    APGWest

    295 posts

    Thanks for listening!

  • #13 / Aug 26, 2009 5:50pm

    Suraj Timalsina

    32 posts

    Seriously, this is getting a bit annoying. I appreciate you being honest and open and all that. But this is starting to feel like a never-ending story, a show in procrastination.

    For every update I get my hopes up a bit, but I never really feel pleased after reading it. There’s no real answers, just tiny bits of information to buy you some more time. And the only thing I learned this time is that it’s going to take no longer than to march 2010 before it’s released. Hmm, that’s half a year. And at least another month before one more group of people can start testing ?

    Of course I’m writing this cause I think EE is a brilliant piece of software. I love it, and I want more. But it’s now almost 1,5 year since the first preview of EE 2, and we don’t even have a date. That’s just too long.

    +1 I still like EE, but found 1.x license too restrictive for most of my projects. I thought 2.x would be released soon enough (1.5 yrs) that way I would know what the new license would be like (would it ship with 1.x license or less restrictive version of it as far as setting up a community oriented site goes),  but for me EllisLab now seems like how Apple Computers Inc. keeps secret about their forthcoming products. Has all this pushed me to adapt GPL/BSD CMS packages?  O’ that’s a dumb question. 100%.

  • #14 / Aug 26, 2009 6:00pm

    Leslie Camacho

    1340 posts

    +1 I still like EE, but found 1.x license too restrictive for most of my projects. I thought 2.x would be released soon enough (1.5 yrs) that way I would know what the new license would be like (would it ship with 1.x license or less restrictive version of it as far as setting up a community oriented site goes)

    Sounds like you’re just the type of person we want to hear from with the Usage/License survey next week. We’re in the midst of revamping the license in prep for 2.0 and we want to be more flexible for the growing types of scenarios people need a CMS for.

  • #15 / Aug 26, 2009 6:03pm

    Derek Jones

    7561 posts

    When we weren’t posting updates like this, people complained that we were too quiet.  We’ve explained numerous times in the blog posts that much of this time consuming process isn’t due to bringing something new to the table - it’s just work, normal software development.  But many still asked for updates at regular intervals.  The numerous positive comments in this thread lead me to believe that the people that were asking for this type of information are happy with what we can provide.  But we can’t manufacture ground shattering information on a two week schedule.  That’s simply not how software development works, that every two weeks on Tuesday some milestone will be met.

    So when you offer a 2.0 update that just discusses how you’re tweaking the control panel UI that 99% of us will never need to bother with

    I’d just like to point out that the UI tweaking is far from trivial, and every single EE user will be impacted by the work the dev team is engaging in right now.

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