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http://digg.com/apple/Apple_introduces_new_MacBook_Pro

They look sweet but are still overpriced, lack firewire which even some apple products require; plus they added £20 to the old macbook, and for what? Moving it to the right hand side of the apple store page?

The LED Display looks nice though…if still overpriced. But then again we are talking about Apple here.

Err Glossy screen only? I’ll be sticking with my slightly older macbook pro thank you very much.

same here. i got a mbp about a month ago and i love it. i dont like the new chicklet keyboard anyways. my mbp is perfect 😊

Has apple lost his fanboy touch???

Must say I love the new design, but as mentioned allready, there’s just a few things that stop me from buying one… That and I actually need a PC for school.

I’ve got my Dell XPS M1530 a couple of days now and I must say, I love it!

Has apple lost his fanboy touch???

The global economy has lost 20% of its value in the last month and is still bleeding.  The last thing people want to do is pay a huge premium on a product that has a two year lifetime.  In addition, it’s hard to generate buzz for a product that hasn’t brought advancement.  People don’t really care about the fabrication process and consumers will not buy into the unibody enclosure as a selling point.  Sure, they upgraded the internal hardware, but all of that is 3rd party stuff and isn’t unique to Mac.  The price is still way off.  I expect we will see a price drop (maybe $100-200) after poor Q1/Q2 sales.  Apple’s computer division is a luxury brand and will feel the pain of a weak economy.

I guess its all relative.  I’ll probably get one…

Oh, and Bramme, you need a PC for school?  Ouch!  What are you studying if you don’t mind me asking? I’m not trying to be confrontational, its just purely curiousity.  I just finished my Masters degree a few months ago and experienced nothing of the sort, but then again, I wholeheartedly recognize that there will be dramatic differences between programs and software.  I had a Dell laptop 5 years ago that is still in service about an hour a week with my sister 😉

i still cant belive they wont be shipping the new display adapters for dvi and vga for another month. im glad i got my macbook pro before with the dvi extension because idk what i would do without a second monitor hooked up to it for a whole month

I guess its all relative.  I’ll probably get one…

Oh, and Bramme, you need a PC for school?  Ouch!  What are you studying if you don’t mind me asking? I’m not trying to be confrontational, its just purely curiousity.  I just finished my Masters degree a few months ago and experienced nothing of the sort, but then again, I wholeheartedly recognize that there will be dramatic differences between programs and software.  I had a Dell laptop 5 years ago that is still in service about an hour a week with my sister 😉

I don’t mind at all 😉 I’m studying to become a high school teacher in ICT and Technologic Education. I don’t know if those are the correct translations, it’s quite literal. Those are two classes in the Belgian school system. ICT you get all six years of high school, technologic ed only two years (the first two). In ICT you learn (as a high school student) pretty general things: worksheets, textprocessing, database management, some webdesign, maybe some photoshop…

Since Microsoft here has a huge monopoly on school software (there are only 2 schools in Flanders that are “mac only”) we see all those things in Microsoft Office. And we’re also using Microsoft Visual Studio to learn some basic VB.NET and ASP.NET.

I know you can run office on mac, but the interface is different, and since we’ll have to be teaching all that stuff later in life, it’s pretty important we learn the correct interface. Together with Visual Studio, that forces us to use Windows.

Now I have nothing against Windows personally, I’ve only been working a few days with Vista, but I gotta say, I like it. And I know you can get bootcamp on a mac but the prices just don’t compare.

My Dell has 4gb ram, 2.1 ghz processor, 320GB, nvidia 8600M, 15” screen. And it only cost me 1000 euros. A mbp would’ve cost me the double, so the choice was easy.

I love the new design, but my current MacBook still gets the job done.

It totally depends on what you need.  Obviously .net is a little difficult on a mac, but most other programming is quite convenient on a *nix based system.  I dual boot mine for SolidWorks and AVRStudio (urgh) and I’m quite happy with XP there.  In the long run every OS will work, Leopard just looks better than most :lol: .

One might argue that if you need Windows that Apple’s laptops are still the better choice.  Between VM Ware and Bootcamp, even PC Magazine has admitted that Macs tend to run Windows better than other laptops.

And really?  Dropping the price bomb?  Fine, there aren’t any $800 Apple laptops, but that myth is the most tired argument of all, I would have thought the PC camp would have given it up by now.  A similarly configured laptop from another manufacturer will not only cost at least as much (even Dell), it will be made from lower quality components, will not hold up as well, does not hold its resale value, and will not run OS X.

One might argue that if you need Windows that Apple’s laptops are still the better choice.  Between VM Ware and Bootcamp, even PC Magazine has admitted that Macs tend to run Windows better than other laptops.

And really?  Dropping the price bomb?  Fine, there aren’t any $800 Apple laptops, but that myth is the most tired argument of all, I would have thought the PC camp would have given it up by now.  A similarly configured laptop from another manufacturer will not only cost at least as much (even Dell), it will be made from lower quality components, will not hold up as well, does not hold its resale value, and will not run OS X.

I’m not “dropping the price bomb”, I’m stating a fact. My Dell cost exactly 1043 euros, no shipping fee, 10% reduction thanks to a Dell coupon and some other promotions. Those aside, the laptop would’ve cost about 1200. An Apple with the same config would cost me 2400 euros. Granted, mine only has a 2.1ghz processor, the MBP a 2.4. We can argue build quality of course, but you gotta admit, it’s not just “a little more”...

I do love macbooks though. I’ve worked with a 20” imac for 2months and I use my girlfriends macbook all the time. They’re just not cut out for what I need…

I totally agree about the programming thing. .net aside, I’d prefer Linux anytime. That’s why I’m trying to get Ubuntu running on a Virtual Machine. Though I’d like to run a 64bit Ubuntu but when I run the install in Virtual PC or Virtualbox, both times the installer gives me the “no x64 processor found, only and i386” error. Dunno what I’m doing wrong.

I’m thinking of moving my webdevelopment entirely to Ubuntu. I would’ve dualbooted my laptop with Ubuntu, but I read there are some driver conflicts with the M1530.

Do you have a link to your Dell?  I simply don’t believe that everything besides the processor’s frequence is identical, and haven’t in 6 years found truly comparable hardware from any vendor that is considerably cheaper than a Mac.

One might argue that if you need Windows that Apple’s laptops are still the better choice.  Between VM Ware and Bootcamp, even PC Magazine has admitted that Macs tend to run Windows better than other laptops.

And really?  Dropping the price bomb?  Fine, there aren’t any $800 Apple laptops, but that myth is the most tired argument of all, I would have thought the PC camp would have given it up by now.  A similarly configured laptop from another manufacturer will not only cost at least as much (even Dell), it will be made from lower quality components, will not hold up as well, does not hold its resale value, and will not run OS X.

You are misinformed.  You can build an HP with similar specs as the $2500 MacBook Pro for around $1600.  Click ‘Customize & Buy’ off the base config on - http://www.shopping.hp.com/series/category/notebooks/dv5t_series/3/computer_store?jumpid=in_r329_personalization/browse1/home_SDP

That is a $900 (around 56%) premium from the HP price.

Install Hackintosh, and Linux on that thing and you have a nice little computer.