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The OP never mentioned anything about Linux.  The only criteria was reliability and price (CHEAP!).  My digs on Mosso were general and not targeted for any individual.  Let’s call a spade a spade (and a cloud a cloud).

They also have NO SSH.  How can you administer a site without access?  Do they even allow you to configure the web server or the database?  Mosso is just shared hosting on a cluster.  Nothing ‘cloud’ about it.  $100/month?  There are much better services for the money.  The OP would not benefit from this service.

I agree that the lack of SSH means that you are limited to configuring the sites you are hosting through the control panel. However that is not necessarily a negative.

Some people aren’t looking to get under the hood. Others are. If you simply want to host sites and applications and bill your clients, why do you want to have to get in and muck about with apache config files and database configurations? Not everyone needs or wants that much control over their environment and infrastructure. If you are willing to accept the limitations of the solution you choose (much as we accept the limitations of the development frameworks we choose), and it still works for you, then what’s the big deal?

Also, if you read through all the technical aspects of mosso, you will see that it truly is cloud computing. Just like the amazon and google solutions. You don’t have a server, you have space. With shared hosting, you’re still on a server.

I agree the $100 is a lot of money, but for the kind of person who wants to host around 20 small sites or two or three medium ones, wants to be able to be a reseller, and doesn’t need to do anything but drop the CI system folder into his root and start building sites, this is a very viable solution.

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If you simply want to host sites and applications and bill your clients, why do you want to have to get in and muck about with apache config files and database configurations?

So I can optimize the performance of and secure their sites as much as needed.

If you are willing to accept the limitations of the solution you choose (much as we accept the limitations of the development frameworks we choose), and it still works for you, then what’s the big deal?

I’m not willing to accept limitations.  If there is something that limits me I will either find an alternative or build one myself.

Also, if you read through all the technical aspects of mosso, you will see that it truly is cloud computing. Just like the amazon and google solutions. You don’t have a server, you have space. With shared hosting, you’re still on a server.

This comment is kind of ridiculous.  First, I won’t even get into comparing Mosso to EC2.  It is obvious you are unfamiliar with what EC2 actually is. Second, Where do you think that ‘space’ exists?  I’ll tell you… on a server.

I agree the $100 is a lot of money, but for the kind of person who wants to host around 20 small sites or two or three medium ones, wants to be able to be a reseller, and doesn’t need to do anything but drop the CI system folder into his root and start building sites, this is a very viable solution.

Maybe, but based on the credentials provided by the OP, there are better alternatives.

At the end of the day, Mosso is fine if you want to host some super simple websites that could exist on a single server running LAMP.  My point is that any sites like that could be hosted at a much cheaper cost and with more fine grained control.

for someone who said hes not a linux guru. i dont think he would care too much about SSH access.

don’t misunderstand me ... i can do basic things and use ssh. but that’s not the same as being a full blown administrator.

thurting, thanks for offering another opinion. What host(s) would you recommend?

thurting, thanks for offering another opinion. What host(s) would you recommend?

It depends on your requirements (short and long term).  What are your requirements?

for someone who said hes not a linux guru. i dont think he would care too much about SSH access.

don’t misunderstand me ... i can do basic things and use ssh. but that’s not the same as being a full blown administrator.

sorry i didnt mean to undermind you. i just meant that alot of the config and setting you can change can be changed with an .htaccess file or php.ini file loacated in your directory so if you dont want to do high level stuff SSH is not that big of a deal. plus im sure if you called and asked for them to change something for your installation they would work something out

thurting, thanks for offering another opinion. What host(s) would you recommend?

It depends on your requirements (short and long term).  What are your requirements?

My requirements are all over the map. SSH is a must have. I also have no interest in system administration though, so reselling and unmanaged vps or dedicated isn’t for me.

We’ve been using jaguarpc as a simple shared host and it serves its purpose well.

Clustered hosts like EngineHosting and CartikaHosting seem to be a nice step up, although I haven’t used either. I like the promise of reliability and instant scalability.

For demanding applications, the ultimate would be a good, affordable, undersold, managed vps. Is there such an animal?

I’ve only done managed (software) VPS once and I was highly unimpressed, so I can’t help you there.  I don’t find sysadmin particularly fun, but I’m fairly competent with Unix and there is something to be said about setting up a finely tuned server that can burn a managed VPS that costs 5x as much.  I know clients appreciate it.

Engine hosting gives you access to SFTP which is good enough for most things.

For demanding applications, the ultimate would be a good, affordable, undersold, managed vps. Is there such an animal?

I think that adds up to a mythical creature. The closest I have spotted to date is http://gandi.net. They just released a final version after 9 months or so in beta.

1. Good: I think so.

2. Affordable: $16 per 256 MB share of RAM with 5 GB disk per share. $14 until the end of the year. There’s a flexi feature that allows additional CPU at set times (like 9-5 every day). You only pay for the periods you set and order. Buzzword compliance (keyword): scaleable.

3. Undersold: It’s based on Xen, so you get what you pay for. This can be good and bad, of course. An account on an undersold server can benefit from more resources overall when those are idle and available. However, you typically pay quite a lot more for a “semi-dedicated” plan. Here you have to crank up the volume yourself with more shares when needed.

4. Managed: You can go the way of the Gandi AI install to manage your packages in a web CP. It’s basically configuring your server based on their pre-defined setup and tuning. Once set up, by clicks or XML config file, you deal with the services; they are, however, your responsibility so the account is not fully managed. There’s a reboot in the web CP and also console access. And SSH, with some limitations imposed to preserve the integrity of the Gandi AI install, is available. You don’t get root access with Gandi AI. By gaining root, you take over the server like a normal VPS.

Someone on these boards pointed me to Gandi a few months ago.  I had forgotten about it, but the service looks promising.  I don’t know anyone who has used it, and it is based in Europe, but if the infrastructure works it could be huge, instantly competing with providers like Joyent and Slicehost.  Hopefully it does work and they will build a data center in the US.

I have my websites in Site5. They have a multiadmin plan that gives you the ability of almost resell your disk space. Unlimited (space, bandwidth, etc…)

Take a look.