Used it quite a bit last night - and as others have mentioned, it is amazingly fast. To be honest, I’ll probably switch over full-time (the only FF extensions I regularly use is FireFTP).
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Subscribe [14]#16 / Sep 03, 2008 2:44am
Used it quite a bit last night - and as others have mentioned, it is amazingly fast. To be honest, I’ll probably switch over full-time (the only FF extensions I regularly use is FireFTP).
#17 / Sep 03, 2008 5:16am
I don’t see what the fuss is all about. I took it for a spin and didn’t notice any speed enhancements (I’m on a dual core). Also, I think the design is horrible and that it renders images in a choppy manner. Just another browser I will have to waste time debugging on. Great.
Long term, this is an obvious, and scary, play at acquiring data on internet usage habits. I imagine Google will soon unleash it’s ‘recommendation engine’ (behavioral target ad server), which will offer you ‘suggestions’ (advertisements) of sites to visit based on your prior usage habits. It will have to be opt-in, but people are already brainwashed enough by the Google brand that they will do anything they are told.
So they skinned WebKit and got a handjob from the media. Can we all go home now?
#18 / Sep 03, 2008 6:26am
thurling may have offensive language but i agree with him the media are blowing this up. Even in the regular news it was mentioned like people dying and hurting or finding a generic cure for cancer is not that important. My rss reader is flooded by posts about the browser. It’s just too much attention.
When inputing an url there are suggestions. With a clean install typing c in the locationbar got me the suggestion Continetal airlines. Is this a sponsored link? And will there be sponsored links in the future, will they be marked?
Other concerns are if you use the google browser how much information are they gathering about your actions, unknowingly? And John Rockefeller blogged about the EULA paragraphs stating everything you create using the browser is considered to be released to google and befriended companies.
It seems that the team took a lot of time an effort to create a browser that pushes the browser development. I like the fact that they created separate processes for different page parts, plugins and even tabs. But other functionalities are present in the other browsers.
At the moment i’m more into the Ubiquity FF addon as a developer and i hope they add it to the locationbar behavior. Which was already a bit of a command line if you used bookmark keywords.
#19 / Sep 03, 2008 6:28am
Just another browser I will have to waste time debugging on. Great.
Agreed.
Long term, this is an obvious, and scary, play at acquiring data on internet usage habits.
This is one of the first things I thought about when I heard the news - this is another tool in the Google Armoury to gather all known information about you to further expand their ad serving efforts. And the Chrome TOS is just plain [http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10030522-2.html]scary[/url]. Don’t be evil my ass.
So they skinned WebKit and got a handjob from the media. Can we all go home now?
Oh, and I find your language slightly humourous, but that might be only me.
#20 / Sep 03, 2008 7:15am
Anyone got any idea on when the extensions are coming? lets have firebug please…
#21 / Sep 03, 2008 8:45am
I don’t understand the argument that its just another browser to debug on. It runs on webkit, i assume people here test their sites on safari already? So what’s the problem? Every website will run fine on it if it works on safari and frankly there are very few inconsistencies between webkit and gecko in their rendering.
#22 / Sep 03, 2008 10:13am
The V8 engine is open source anyway.
#23 / Sep 03, 2008 10:33am
Other concerns are if you use the google browser how much information are they gathering about your actions, unknowingly?
Close to none, it seems: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-communication/
I’ve read the post and it seems the behaviour is not that different from other browsers so not many people will have problems with it.
I’m not a conspiracy-theorist but you have to admit it’s tempting for a company that gathers information to try to get statistics on how people use their browser first hand. Maybe it doesn’t matter but there are people who are getting payed for allowing access to that kind of information because it worth something for someone. Then you start thinking why should i endure advertisements, in the form of sponsored links, when i’m a part of the information providing group?
#24 / Sep 03, 2008 6:47pm
I don’t understand the argument that its just another browser to debug on. It runs on webkit, i assume people here test their sites on safari already? So what’s the problem? Every website will run fine on it if it works on safari and frankly there are very few inconsistencies between webkit and gecko in their rendering.
For now the inconsistencies are minimal, but the original browser inconsistencies originated from the browser wars between Microsoft and Netscape. Microsoft loves developing proprietary tools and if they start feeling any real competition they will branch their browser.
#25 / Sep 03, 2008 7:03pm
Wow. I think I should have brought my tin foil hat to this discussion. Chamone!
#26 / Sep 04, 2008 5:47am
Just because you’re paranoid, don’t mean they’re not after you…
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#27 / Sep 04, 2008 6:37am
Found one bit of javascript not working properly this morning, but that’s about it. I’m liking it so far. Though I won’t be leaving Firefox alltogether, seeing as I use Firebug a lot and like my extensions in general.
edit: seems like V8 simply can’t handle reflections…
#28 / Sep 04, 2008 7:00am
Bramme, this might not be a Chrome issue, the link you posted pretty much crashes my Firefox 3 on WinXP. Memory usage goes up to 660(!)MB (I have 1GB of RAM in my laptop) and FF doesn’t respond anymore for several minutes. I just tried it again with Firebug suspended and this time at least I could close the page without having to kill firefox.exe process, but memory usage still goes up to over 700MB and CPU stays on 99% for several minutes. I wouldn’t want to use this on my website.
#29 / Sep 04, 2008 7:59am
Wow, that’s bad! However, reflection.js doesn’t work either and that’s a pretty well known script.
#30 / Sep 04, 2008 8:46am
That’s true, it doesn’t work properly in Chrome, there seems to be a problem with the opacity.