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I was wondering how many other commercial host offer php 6, As we at WackyWebs.net have taken the bold move to introduce PHP6 whilst still allowing our customers access to php 4 and 5 simultaneously. Please visit WackyWebs.net for more information on yur PHP 6 hosting.

How many hosts offer PHP6?
How many of you would like to try PHP6?

I’ll be blunt.  I couldn’t care less.  I wish I could care, but it’s just not realistic.

It’s been almost four years since PHP 5 was released.  PHP 4 is no longer developed (and support for critical bug fixes stops 08-08-08).  Yet, the majority of hosts are still running PHP 4.  What’s more, there was (and is) a lot more incentive to go from 4 to 5 than there is from 5 to 6.

PHP 5 drastically improved PHP OOP support, putting it on par with most popular web-scripting languages.  In comparison, PHP 6 is a minor upgrade.  It cleans up a few nuisances and fixes some security issues.  The change has been slow going to 5 and it’ll be even slower going to 6.  There’s no compelling reason to change.

When I don’t see hosts that only support PHP 4 anymore, I’ll ... be a senior citizen playing bridge while my robot cleans my dentures.

Nice to here what you have to think. We offer it with full backward compatibility so people can choose, when they join use, what they would like to use.

It’s a bit sad but inparo is right php6 doesn’t offer much more over php5.3 but all functions supporting unicode will have a positive effect on the global marketshare of php.

I think it’s a bad time for upgrading languages it started with perl6 then came php6 and the last i know of that has troubles with acceptance is python3000.

I would have voted for “you are crazy” but it was not on the list.  I don’t know where 6.0 is at but I’m guessing it is beta and far from being available.  No way would I want to run a production site on PHP 6 or even have it available to users on a prduction server.  If I were going to do that, I would setup a sandbox server just for that purpose.

Some of the cool things that were set for 6 are being bumped up in 5.3 which is more realistic.  I was thinking 5.3 would be available by now but it is not.  One of the most interesting features is namespaces.  It will also come with a native MySQL adapter.

TJ,

As a webhost, I would encourage you to make the switch, simply because it should all be backwards compatible, php5 scripts will run fine on a php6 server.  Only realize, that if it comes at any significant expense to you, it may not be worth it.  (I assume it’s not much trouble, but I only work with old-school servers, so I wouldn’t know)

As a developer who’s projects are mostly open source, with the occasional site for a non-profit, I have no control over my client’s hosting.  As such it’s not feasible for me to adopt php6.  A lot of developers have to apply similar reasoning to make a living.  So while I will gladly point my clients to a php5 or even 6 host any day, most of my programming will be 4 and 5.

And why haven’t I heard of python3000?  Python is awesome.

We have heavily tested it and have offered it out to the public now to test. we allow it through the use of .php6 extension or the option to change the user default to php 6. We do only recommend this for scripts the require it or for experienced devs.

Thanks for your feed back so far. This helps us as a host to greatly improve our service for you.

One thing I would also like to mention is that CI 1.6.1 works perfectly on PHP6.

TJ,

As a webhost, I would encourage you to make the switch, simply because it should all be backwards compatible, php5 scripts will run fine on a php6 server.  Only realize, that if it comes at any significant expense to you, it may not be worth it.  (I assume it’s not much trouble, but I only work with old-school servers, so I wouldn’t know)

As a developer who’s projects are mostly open source, with the occasional site for a non-profit, I have no control over my client’s hosting.  As such it’s not feasible for me to adopt php6.  A lot of developers have to apply similar reasoning to make a living.  So while I will gladly point my clients to a php5 or even 6 host any day, most of my programming will be 4 and 5.

And why haven’t I heard of python3000?  Python is awesome.

We already offer PHP 6, with the option to run PHP 5 and 4 simultaneously. This allows experienced dev to try PHP 6 whilst other to use PHP 4 or 5 or all together.

To use together you can use the .PHP4 - .PHP5 - .PHP6 extensions and / or they can default it to a set php and still use the extensions for the odd file that requires different.

That is great that you have heavily tested it but I still wouldn’t use it.  PHP 6 is not production ready.  This is not something like edge Rails, you are running a major part of your platform as not production ready.  I probably would not select a web host which runs PHP 6 either.  A serious web host IMO will focus on stability rather than developer toys.  To me, PHP 6 is a toy until it is downloadable on the front page of PHP.net as stable.  Call me wrong and paranoid but I am sticking with PHP 5.

Tom, seriously, all of these polls and constant posting of links to your site, please cut it out.  You’re a valued member of the community, and I’d hate to have to take action on your account because you’re using our forums to try to increase traffic to your business.  Having a link in your signature is quite enough.

Sorry. Will do I just like to know what people think.

Another thing is how do you know my name is Tom I have not posted it any where.

It’s in your signature.

Thats me being stupid again, please if one of the Derek’s could close or delete this thread I will be a happy. there will be no more post like this from me.

It’s in your signature.

*giggles*