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Has any one used CI on MOSSO hosting?

It looks good but i want to know if anyone else has used it. if you have can you specify a domain, average monthly requests, average bandwidth, and disk space used.

Thanks

Tom Glover

I had personally a very bad experience with them 1 year and a half before…
First problem was about that it was awfully slow from my country (Switzerland)
Then I had some big time with their support team and I left them after 1 month asked for refund my money (they do without any discussion, that was ok)

Thanks for the quick reply, they also seem slow for me at the moment but i am routing all my trafic through china as this is the only way to get on the net with, Pipex Broadband.

No SSH.

No SSH.

I Noticed that, but I am not to sure how to use it, so it is not a major thing for me in terms of hosting.

Thanks for the help so far.

SSH is basically shell access to your account.  That means you can access your hosting and use the OS in a terminal just as you could access your own machine (except it is all command line.)  I would go nuts without it that it is not required I suppose.  Some of the better shared hosting providers I have come across don’t offer SSH access by default because novice users can cause trouble with it (cause disturbances from running resource intensive operations.)

I think they started out like MT.  With such a different approach to hosting they had lots of problems but they may have stabilized by now.  Run a search for the name in webhostingtalk.com.  That forum is probably the best place to get updated reviews.

Thanks again, I have just spoken to them and they are trying to get SSH out of beta by the end of the the 3rd quarter of 08, which is good.

SSH depend on your needs of course, but while you are looking for a dedicated hosting or things like Mosso, believe me SSH is required. Now you maybe don’t know how to use it, but it’s quiet easy to learn for make basic things. If I were you I wouldn’t take a hosting without SSH access.

Yeah, I couldn’t live without SSH.  Mosso is pretty expensive considering no SSH which is a big handicap for administration IMO.

Also, Mosso could be a problem for highly popular applications.  Last I saw they charge by hits.  Once you go over 3,000,000 hits then they start charging extra.  Probably not a problem for most but it is something to be aware of.

What is it about Mosso that appeals to you?  As I mentioned before, they have a spotty record but they might be better now.  I don’t care how flashy a host looks, the bottom line for me is reliability and performance.

Im still not clear why i would need ssh, could you give me a few examples of what i could do with it.

From a big list, the most usefull:
- Update your PHP version, upgrade, add extensions, add or remove what you want, change your php.ini how you want it (I give you one example: I had one application that was needing an upload field up to 100Mo, without SSH access I couln’t change my php.ini how I wanted to, and I don’t like to play with .htaccess when I can do it directly on the php config)

- Move files, move sites, move accounts, whatever. Let’s say you make your developpement at 1 address, for example http://www.yoursite.com/dev/ and you want just to move your files all at once. You won’t need with SSH to wait the FTP upload of your files, just with 1 command you can move all your files at once.

- Also, deleting of files, managing of mysql command line, create DB, delete etc…

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Have you ever used Linux?  Actually, almost anyone who has ever done hosting has dealt with Linux in some degree.  The entire Linux OS can be operated via command line and that is what SSH is.  In other words, SSH is how you control your Linux system.  Of course a shared hosting provider does not give you that total control but a dedicated or VPS gives you most of it (you may still be limited because you may not be able to do things like compile your own kernel.) 

So the difference between having SSH and not having SSH is in how much control you have over your environment.  Without SSH you are limited to control panel tasks and FTP.  To be honest, I have not used FTP in so long I don’t even know what can be done with it but I know it is limited (SFTP is better because it is secure.)  I believe Mosso actually gives out SFTP access.

There is just a long line of commands that you can run with SSH that you otherwise have little access to.  Even if you have an equivalent in the control panel, I find the web based interfaces to be too slow and generally frustrating.  You likely can’t do thinks like Rsync, Tar, SCP (secure file transfer,) MySQL command line tools, shell based administration commands and I could go on for days.

It’s like getting a computer with only a web browser and absolutely none of the rest of the controls of the OS.  Think of an ATM bank terminal.  It might be Windows but you can only use the buttons available to you.  There is very little of the OS that you can actually use.

Overall, just very limiting.

By the way.  I believe that every developer should know their chosen computing platform well.  If you are a Windows developer then knowing *nix is not critical.  If you develop on the *nix platform then I strongly suggest you get to know *nix inside and out.  Learn the commands, learn how to setup a server environment.  Perhaps get a cheap VPS.  Get a VM and install Linux locally.

Thanks, i just never have had the need to use it as i own 90 servers already, with debian linux, a GUI on all servers, this allows me, when im at the Datacentre, to edit anything. i also have direct PHP.ini file access to any account on my servers through a web panel and also access to KVM over IP.

Wow, and you don’t use SSH or the command line?  I can’t get by on Linux with just a GUI.

I find it the easiest way. Have a look at WackyWebs.net for more details.