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  • #91 / Aug 06, 2008 1:32pm

    John Fuller

    779 posts

    I’m evaluating using ExpressionEngine for my company.  Is there any word on when 2.0 will be released? We have some CodeIgniter functionality already built and don’t want to rebuild in EE to make it work now, and then rebuild it BACK to EE when 2.0 comes out.

    The announcement was in March, and it’s now August.

    Wanderingstan!  Welcome to the EE community.  I used Outfoxed back what seemed like ages ago.  I think I might have been the first person to ask about running my own Outfoxed server.  That was a Drupal of a long time ago, I have not kept up with it since though. :( 

    I will have to check out what you have been doing since.  Nice to see you around.  😉

  • #92 / Aug 11, 2008 5:15pm

    Dave Rau

    85 posts

    I’m curious why the lack of transparency about where ee2 is in the development stages. Seems like an easy decision to be transparent about and will quell a lot of the concerns about when it’s coming and what’s going to break/change.

  • #93 / Aug 11, 2008 6:37pm

    cjorgensen

    393 posts

    I’m curious why the lack of transparency about where ee2 is in the development stages.

    This question has been asked and addressed a lot.

    Comes down to they don’t want to promise what they can’t deliver and they’ve had bad experiences telling people things in advance.

    This said, I heard it was going to be able to make julienned fries, and if it doesn’t I’m going to tell everyone how bad it sucks!

    I consider it amazing they gave a projected release date.

    And honestly, at this point, what would the point of transparency be? Then the 3 weeks of summer they have left would be spent answering comments/complaints/criticism/compliments and not actually developing.

  • #94 / Aug 12, 2008 10:47am

    Brian M.

    529 posts

    I’m a bit surprised about the lack of news myself. With only 3 weeks of summer left it would be pretty surprising to see a general public release IMHO within that stated timeframe. But then again if it was going to be delayed it would probably be pretty obvious by now and I would think they would announce that ASAP so as to minimize the wailing and gnashing of teeth.

    I’m just pulling this out of my arse, but it seems like the dev preview should be out at least a few weeks before the general release? So…. like last week?

  • #95 / Aug 12, 2008 10:50am

    Cocoaholic

    445 posts

    only 3 weeks? is it September already? 😉

  • #96 / Aug 12, 2008 11:04am

    cjorgensen

    393 posts

    I guess it depends on how one looks at these things.

    To me, summer starts when it gets really hot, and ends when stuff starts to die. So yeah, I guess we have until sometime in September. Wikipedia says so as well.

    But one could also look at it in other ways. Students are back to school after the summer break, it’s getting darker earlier and staying that way longer, there’s Halloween candy in the grocery stores, and swim suits are getting harder to find. Summer may still be here, but it’s in the rearview mirror.

    Since there is no release date other than “summer,” we only get speculation. Which, as stated in my above post is fine with me. Just at some point, you will be past the spirit of things, and into the letter or things. And if EE 2.0 comes out on the last actual day of Summer, I think you’re going to have a few irritated people. Me not being one of them. I have no plans for an immediate switch over (I’ll let people that know more than me be the test subjects).

    Oh, and I just pulled 3 weeks out of the air, as it kind of felt like how much Summer there was left. I wasn’t trying to impose a deadline on anyone.

  • #97 / Aug 12, 2008 11:22am

    Brian M.

    529 posts

    I think they’re using the Apple method of deadlines: summer means the last minute of the last day of summer.  Here in VT the end of summer is when the leaves start turning.  I’ve got a couple trees dying on my property, so for them 2.0 is already late 😉 Guess I should have looked at a calendar rather than take that 3 weeks as ‘official’ end of summer.  With the temps being in the 70s for the past few weeks it sure seems like summer is almost over.

  • #98 / Aug 12, 2008 1:37pm

    Lisa Wess

    20502 posts

    The temperatures here are going up, up, up again.  Never mind EE 2.0, but c’mon Autumn.  I want to see some color changes, darn it.

  • #99 / Aug 14, 2008 10:34am

    MikeeJay

    9 posts

    Does anyone know about the price for EE2.0? If I buy 1.6 today, will the upgrade to 2.0 cost me another $249.95?

  • #100 / Aug 14, 2008 10:38am

    Crssp-ee

    572 posts

    It was stated earlier that it would not cost more to upgrade than to buy v.2 outright. It may cost more and everybody would have to pay the upgrade cost to have access to V.2. No official word on what the pricing will be, but you wouldn’t be penalized and wind up paying more, if you buy a 1.6 branch license.
    FYI from the forums earlier.

  • #101 / Aug 14, 2008 11:14am

    cjorgensen

    393 posts

    EllisLab has said the price will be “fair,” and that people won’t be hurt by buying now. I’d even expect a bit of a break for existing customers, but I don’t speak for EE.

    I’ve decided what I am really waiting for is 1.6.5! Enough of this 2.0 anticipation, when’s 1.6.5 coming out!

  • #102 / Aug 15, 2008 12:01am

    Fábio Marchi

    103 posts

    Maybe EE team was reffering to the Mars Summer 😉

  • #103 / Aug 15, 2008 3:27pm

    Mark Bowen

    12637 posts

    Maybe EE team was reffering to the Mars Summer 😉

    Been there, done that already!! 😉 😊 😉

    Best wishes,

    Mark

  • #104 / Sep 01, 2008 7:28pm

    I was very excited to stumble upon this post and hear about the implementation of jQuery to CodeIgniter. In a sort of journey of self-discovery I’ve recently abandoned re-inventing any more wheels and decided last year not to engage in any more custom code.

    I “wasted” nearly a year toying with Ruby on Rails before I sort of woke up and managed to free myself from the cult compound and came back to PHP.

    So, I’ve been learning jQuery lately (again refusing to write any more custom javascript) and trying to integrate it with CodeIgniter gracefully. Which has been challenging. Here’s why:

    I’m a bit of standards-geek: XTHML 1.0 Strict and CSS-positioning for everything. And yes, it better validate or I have to go to confession every week that the site stays up. Okay, maybe that’s the OCD and ADHD talking there, but you get the point.

    What *kills* me is those who implement external scripts (and sometimes CSS stylesheets) on every page of a website… adding unknown kilobytes to pages where they are fully unnecessary.

    So, I hope when CI makes the leap to integrate jQuery (oh, boy… I can’t wait for $this-javascript->do_magic), that they will somehow take that into account.

    Here’s what I’m doing on a current project and I’m certainly not clear if this is the best way, but it’s what I thought of.

    In CI, I have a header_view (as we all do, right?), but it quite ungraciously ends at some 20 lines past my opening body tag. In the old days, I’d end it one line before my closing </head> tag and then try to slap extra includes for certain pages (that would contain page specific javascript, etc) at the top of my “page” (or “section” for you T/P fans out there) before my closing </head>.

    But yeah, that’s a lot of duplicate code in various sections/pages, particularly if you also want to include your template header in your header_view (your masthead, etc). You know, if you’re into that “code in one place and one place only” thing.

    In T/P you could use conditional tags and just include certain “forms” (snippets), but that adds extra dB calls, wear and tear on the little PHP guy in the computer, and so forth. But that’s how I did it - so shoot me.

    But in CI, here’s what I’ve been trying:

    In my controller, I include two array variables: $scripts[] and $jquery_scripts[]. The $scripts[] contain the actual js filenames that I want referenced in the head for my external script loads.

    The $jquery_scripts[] are the line by line calls to jquery in my body onload stuff (or $(function)... whatever).

    Then in my header_view.php, I basically do an isset for $scripts and run them through a foreach loop in my load script tags… something like {base_url}/static/js/{insert $script here}.js

    Then I do the same thing for the jquery_scripts array except after my $(function) call.

    Thus, each page only loads the external script it needs and doesn’t waste time doing jQuery calls on elements that wouldn’t exist anyway. I’ve seen sites implement table-striping (zebra striping… whatever you wanna call it) that run that call on every page, even though there are only 2 tables on the whole site.

    It could probably be even better, though. The jquery_scripts are really nothing more than lines of code (which I have to repeat on certain pages) so I really need to get those saved in some globalish variable that I can access from all controllers.

    For instance, there’s no sense in loading the form handling features of some ui.jquery thing on the home page, the about page, etc… (uh, unless there is a form there of course). So, since I/we use a bunch of them thar jquery goodness for forms, why not just save the whole form calls as an array and just pass them just on controllers that deal with forms? Well, because a) I’m still somewhat lazy (come on!) and b) you have to start making allowances for different ids and classes on some forms that might not be on others (particularly true when developing a web app over a web “site”). But, it probably could be done.

    Anyway, I pass that on as my official “two cents worth” and am hoping that when/if CI integrates jquery so gracefully as they seem to be promising, that this is thought of. But even if not, it will make it easier for us. Thanks so much for choosing jQuery as your first library for this.

  • #105 / Sep 01, 2008 10:01pm

    Crssp-ee

    572 posts

    Nice first post Lawrence, welcome aboard the EE forums.
    Thanks for reviving the thread, I expected to see pleading/begging for the new version, due out this hurricane season.
    Best wishes to anyone weathering out the storms down south as well.

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