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Is it not time for Expressionegine team to start making some stuning templates for Expressionengine?

February 24, 2008 11:39am

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  • #61 / Jul 04, 2008 3:43pm

    Ingmar

    29245 posts

    Really. I have never found any XHTML template (free, commercial, stock ones, WP, whatever) that I could not convert to work with EE in under an hour.

    A small writeup on that process of a “one-hour-conversion” could make a great mug-shot or tutorial.

    Well, let’s be serious here. It’ll likely take some additional tweaking, setting up some global variables, headers and whatnot, but the basic process consists of taking an XHTML file and replacing the content with {exp:weblog} tags. Really doesn’t take more than a few minutes if you know what you’re doing.

  • #62 / Jul 04, 2008 3:57pm

    Crssp-ee

    572 posts

    Well, let’s be serious here. It’ll likely take some additional tweaking, setting up some global variables, headers and whatnot, but the basic process consists of taking an XHTML file and replacing the content with {exp:weblog} tags. Really doesn’t take more than a few minutes if you know what you’re doing.

    Dude, so you’re saying you could knockout the template in like 5-minutes.. I say knock out that template! Maybe the quetion is how many tags would need altered 10 or less? I don’t… not believe it couldn’t be done!!! 😊

  • #63 / Jul 04, 2008 4:00pm

    Benoît Marchal

    204 posts

    A small writeup on that process of a “one-hour-conversion” could make a great mug-shot or tutorial.

    There’s a tutorial here that I have found helpful: http://www.boyink.com/splaat/weblog/category/building-an-expressionengine-site/

  • #64 / Jul 04, 2008 9:15pm

    Mark Bowen

    12637 posts

    Okay okay here I go again!! 😉

    Just thought that people might like this little nugget that I do when creating a template. May or may not help people out. I don’t know about that but just thought it might be nice to share in case people don’t already do this.

    <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
    <html >
    <head>
    <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" />
    <title></title>
    <style type="text/css">
    <!--
    html {
    font-size: 62.5%;
    }
    body {
        color: #666666;
        font-size: 1.2em;
        font-family: Arial, "Lucida Grande", Verdana, sans-serif, Helvetica;
        margin: 0;
        padding: 0;
        text-align: center;
    }
    #wrapper {
        margin: 0 auto;
        width: 950px;
        text-align: left;
        /* border: solid thin red; */
    }
    a {
        text-decoration: none;
    }
    a:hover {
        text-decoration: underline;
    }
    -->
    </style>
    </head>
    <body>
    <div id="wrapper">
    
    <!-- {exp:weblog:entries weblog="quotes" limit="10" dynamic="off" disable="member_data|trackbacks|pagination|categories|category_fields"} -->
    {quote}
    <!-- {/exp:weblog:entries} -->
    
    
    </div>
    </body>
    </html>

    Notice how I already have my weblog tag in there yet it won’t mess up or show in my template whilst I am testing 😉 When I get this into ExpressionEngine which is now just literally copy and paste I can very very easily just go through the code and delete the start and end comment tags and get my weblog tags or whatever else already in there for me.

    Simple but I think really effective. Saves me hours of work a lot of the time.

    Anyway just thought it might help out a bit. I have many other things that I do to save myself development time but will probably leave those for a different time and place to the forums.

    Best wishes,

    Mark

  • #65 / Jul 04, 2008 11:50pm

    Sean C. Smith

    3818 posts

    So if you are interested then head on over to EETemplates.com and sign up to be notified when we launch.

    I just signed up - looks to be a great resource and I’m looking forward to what you produce.

    Really. I have never found any XHTML template (free, commercial, stock ones, WP, whatever) that I could not convert to work with EE in under an hour.

    I’ve done this a few times myself - usually takes me 60 to 90 minutes depending on how many templates I need to make.

  • #66 / Jul 05, 2008 10:55am

    qlas

    33 posts

    I’m happy that the (default) template question is back again.

    I’d like to second some contributors of this thread and push in their direction
    with another summary in 3 questions:

    ===================
    1. Which type of clients expressionengine wants to target?
    2. Why there is a need for professional out-of-the-box templates?
    3. Who has to be in the template business?
    ===================

    1. Which type of clients expressionengine wants to target?
    a) professional webdeveloppers & webdesigners
    b) professional users with little or any design skills
    (who want to put dynamic content quickly on the web and can’t/don’t want to hire a webdesigner with ee skills)
    c) non-professional users with little or any design skills
    d) others

    If it is not only type a) go on to the following question:

    2. Why there is a need for professional well designed out-of-the-box templates for ee?
    a- Many professionals, especially small companies and SOHOs of any business need to get dynamic content as quickly as possible online - they often don’t have the skills, time or money to hire/find/work with a professional webdesign company and need reliable solutions.
    b- A lot of new users who are looking for an affordable professional CMS are attracted by well designed free or at least affordable ready-made templates
    c- Old fashioned or even buggy default templates might have the opposite effect
    d- more


    3. Who has to be in the template business?
    a- EllisLab
    b- Third party webdesign company/companies
    c- other  

    There’s no need for EllisLab to go into the template business.
    As solspace offers professional extensions and plugins, there might be a third party webdesign agency that offers ready made professional templates.
    But as design matters, EllisLab should at least invest in a set of lets say 3 to 9 up-to-date default templates as a starting point for any user not belonging to user group 1.a).

    ===================

    By the way:

    I count myself in group 1.b) and I’m using frequently two of the out-of-the-box templates available for download on expressionengine.com - even if one of them was a little buggy. I use them as a starting point or for prototyping - Yes, you geeks don’t make fun of me! and thank you EllisLab, that made my start.
    😊

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