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I’ve got the perfect tagline:
“Xippty Do Dah!”
From the Song of the South.

I’ve got the perfect tagline:
“Xippty Do Dah!”
Here’s the polka version—Midi Alert (if you value your sanity don’t click this). sorry guys, feel free to remove this one :)

Now that’s just nasty! :-) I remember when everyone used to do that and it always used to crash the browser out. Wouldn’t be so bad if it was a better version though! 😊

Sorry Kurt, please feel free to delete this post too if needed.

Best wishes,

Mark

I would be interested in some of the possible answers for 3,7,9.
Did you in fact say that time (3) that the ISP was less suited? and how did you awnser it?
(7,9 does it work like Word™ and easy to use) has to do with wysiwyg, but also with a manageable edit-list (wether or not in the control-panel) and easy uploads. all three have to be build (at a cost)...
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There’s also an old catchphrase, something like, “You have 3 parameters in a project - within budget, within specification, finish on time - you may choose two of these options”.

OK - I’ll take a shot….😉

1. Why do they charge for it, isn’t it open-source?

It’s a commercial product, which means there are people who have the job of making sure the software is developed and supported.  As a business I feel more comfortable putting clients on commercial software for that reason.

2. What happens to it three years from now when we’ve moved all our resources into it and you’re out of business?

Ah…it’s the old “what if Mike gets hit by a bus” question..😉 (Or is it - who did you mean by “you’re”—EE or the developer?)

If it’s me as a developer…one of the things I appreciate about EE is there is a thriving community of users and developers around the product.  If I get hit by a bus or take a different job you’ll be able to find other working professionals using the product.  I’ll even help in that process if need be.

3. We just pre-paid for two years of hosting and got a really great deal at a huge well-known hosting provider. Are you saying that your software won’t work there?

The requirements for EE aren’t unusual - it’s entirely possible that it will run on your current host.  However - with hosting (like with anything) you get what you pay for, and it’s possible that the software won’t function as well as it could.  EE has sister company that provides hosting, and since they are well-versed in the software they can tune the servers best for it, and the plans start at only $10/mo - well worth it for the comfort of mind and reliability they can provide.

4. My nephew is a professional web designer and he uses Xippty, and Xippty is free and is used by a lot of people, and he says that your software is kind of difficult to use and he doesn’t know anyone who uses it.

Thanks for the email and the opportunity to review your project.  I don’t think I’m going to be the best fit for your project.

5. How long have you been in business anyway?

Me - > 5 years, EE - almost four years.

6. The other CMS we’re looking at is only $100 per seat. Look, we can’t afford $250 a year for every person in our office, do we look like that kind of operation to you?

Explained the licensing arrangement here.

7. It will work just like MS Word right?

No.  Publishing content on the site will be more like sending an email - filling out some fields and clicking a button.

8. Has your firm ever worked with a company our size before?

I’ve worked with companies approximately the same size as yours.  Also larger companies and smaller companies.

9. Look, I don’t have a lot of time. This is going to be easy to use right?

If it’s not, then I didn’t do my job well.

10. I don’t like the idea of someone else having our data. Why can’t we keep the data for the website on our computers?

We can certainly talk about hosting the site internally.  The question will be one of costs - is having the data in-house going to be worth the expense of buying and maintaining a web server and keeping up with all the security issues relating to that, when a webhost will do all of that for $10/mo?

Is it just me or is it hard to find a link to EngineHosting from within the current ExpressionEngine site?
I did not realize it was that economical, popping over there to check the terms on that then, another light bulb moment.
I can’t wait to get your book Michael, if I don’t get busy then, I’ll have to just make my exodus from the boards here even.

This from a guy who’s been totally hung up with doing the hosting via “in-house” means for even the first client, and “we” don’t even run php (it’s kind of a problem).

A good system admin versed in “open source” and php technologies would be way more then $10 bucks a month.

Is it just me or is it hard to find a link to EngineHosting from within the current ExpressionEngine site?

Really? There are an average of two links per page in the main and mini footer to EngineHosting everywhere except the forums and the wiki.

I forgot it was called enginehosting, try entering expressionengine hosting in the site search or google and see what you get.
Just thought it worth a mention, it’s a mute point then I just missed the bottom links, sorry D.

I forgot it was called enginehosting, try entering expressionengine hosting in the site search or google and see what you get.
The average user might not join the two words together.

All the links on this page reference EngineHosting

I seriously forgot that enginehosting was EE “in-house”.
That’s great then, top o’ the heap on google.

It’s not in-house.  EngineHosting is a separate company, our partner, part of the EllisLab network.  We have prominent advertising to them in the footer of every page of the site proper, as well as from our store.  That said, your feedback regarding searching for it on our site itself is appreciated, and I ask that we, including me, stop derailing Kurt’s thread. :-D

I really enjoyed this article and seeing people’s responses here in the forum. I can honestly say, I didn’t have an answer for all of the questions right off the top of my head. Great things to think about in case any of the situations ever arise, which I’m sure they will.

I was there on that meeting when the client was already sold on us.  Took Kurt a minute to recover from his shock.  He’d talked to me all day about the sales pitch and how we were going to position ourselves.  We walked in and she just wanted to get going with it right then and there.  😊

Building that kind of reputation takes some time, but its a beautiful thing once you have gotten there.

Jamie