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The text is way too large! Why clients are very funny individuals

October 26, 2007 8:38am

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  • #1 / Oct 26, 2007 8:38am

    Dave_H

    73 posts

    I am designing a site for a new client. I showed him visuals and mocked it up. He was happy. Built the thing, fairly happy, but I was getting negative vibes. Was it the layout, colours?

    Eventually after much back and forth he asked me that that he wanted everything on the front page to fit in the window. He didn’t want any scrolling. Ummmmm I said well you have a lot of news and info on the front page. He replied that he wanted it there and could I push everything up. Of course I explained that people do not have a problem scrolling. This was inconceivable to him.

    His solution is to kill all the leading, maybe even make it negative and reduce the text size from 12px to 9 or 8px!

    I explained that the text was laid out using proper leading and that it all flowed nicely. Also people will have a problem reading it. After much discussion and getting nowhere, he asked me to implement his brillaint plan.

    I ended up just agreeing with everything. Really now, just wanting to finish this job, get paid and take my credit off the site.

    I haven’t encountered this sort of ignorance before, but it takes the biscuit.

  • #2 / Oct 26, 2007 8:53am

    Cocoaholic

    445 posts

    One less for the Portfolio :shut:

  • #3 / Oct 26, 2007 8:56am

    Dave_H

    73 posts

    Well yes, indeed. But I am also saddened by it, as he seemed to understand about the needs of the web in the initial meeting.

  • #4 / Oct 26, 2007 10:27am

    Derek Jones

    7561 posts

    You’ve got to email me a screen shot or a link, hehe, it reminds me of one of the owners of a print shop I worked for a few years ago.  I’m sure you’ve probably already heard this, too, but it feels appropriate to link to it again: Make the logo bigger!.

  • #5 / Oct 26, 2007 10:41am

    Stephen Slater

    366 posts

    That song is hilarious!

  • #6 / Oct 26, 2007 11:33am

    Dave_H

    73 posts

    That song is good alright. I will post a visual when I get around to wrecking it for him. I know it’s only a few lines of CSS, but it will take time, mentally, to prepare for it.

  • #7 / Oct 26, 2007 2:01pm

    Rob Allen

    3105 posts

    I feel for you, did you explain about different monitor and browser size settings? Probably too late but as someone saud - one less for the portfolio!

  • #8 / Oct 26, 2007 2:26pm

    Lisa Wess

    20502 posts

    Most importantly, did you explain about people with bad eyesight? 😉

  • #9 / Oct 26, 2007 2:38pm

    Dave_H

    73 posts

    Oh how I explained that his monitor size and res was one in many! But I think he is convinced that his is the standard. Oh how god awful it all sounds. The client just wants his way whatever happens.

  • #10 / Oct 26, 2007 3:40pm

    Nelly

    94 posts

    One less for the Portfolio :shut:

    Gah, I hate that feeling.

  • #11 / Oct 26, 2007 4:32pm

    Leslie Camacho

    1340 posts

    The only thing I can think of is to setup tracking on the site right away so you can actually see what the typical screen size/resolution visiting the site is. That way you can make the argument from actual data from the site.

    But I admit, your current plan is probably the most reasonable 😊

  • #12 / Oct 26, 2007 5:01pm

    e-man

    1816 posts

  • #13 / Oct 27, 2007 1:14am

    PXLated

    1800 posts

    Ridiculous…When I was doing the original BestBuy site a lot of CE products had a lot of specs, went on for many pages down. We did a study to see if this was a problem, used the long page and the same page splint to multiples. Ended up people didn’t mind the vertical scroll at all (within reason), they’re used to doing it in email and word processing docs. A few months later someone else released a study that verified ours. Horizontal scrolling is a whole different matter.

    Bet once you get it redone there will be enough negative feedback to change it back…don’t discard your original CSS 😊

  • #14 / Oct 29, 2007 11:44am

    Dave_H

    73 posts

    Oh yes I have kept the CSS alright so we will see how it goes.

    Leslie that is a good idea to track it and show the results.

  • #15 / Oct 29, 2007 12:00pm

    allgood2

    427 posts

    To bad you don’t have access to the boss machine, you could just change the default sizes on his machine and allow him to wallow in his eye-strained world.

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