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  • #1 / Jun 25, 2007 11:28am

    Derek Jones

    7561 posts

    Particularly when working with wikis, it can be frustrating when you have many users unknowingly working on resources simultaneously, and one person’s edits effectively cancel out the others’ when they submit their changes.  Popular articles on busy sites can go through spurts where this happens regularly.  There are a few wikis that I casually participate in that I see this happen quite a bit.

    The kneejerk solution is to “lock” an article when one person begins editing, however that presents a mountain of usability issues.

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  • #2 / Jun 25, 2007 11:48am

    PXLated

    1800 posts

    Nice solution Derek!!!

  • #3 / Jun 25, 2007 11:54am

    textdriven

    107 posts

    Perfect!

    Thank you Derek you’re a hero.

  • #4 / Jun 25, 2007 11:58am

    Ingmar

    29245 posts

    Great. Actually, we had been talking about an extension like that just the other day, Andy (aka Expresionengineer) hinted at wanting to write a locking one, so this is a bit of a surprise… Most welcome, of course.

  • #5 / Jun 25, 2007 12:00pm

    Daniel Walton

    553 posts

    Very nice, will this be an inclusive feature in upcoming EE releases?

  • #6 / Jun 25, 2007 12:07pm

    Ingmar

    29245 posts

    Actually, I find this quite fitting for an extension, why not just get that?

  • #7 / Jun 25, 2007 12:09pm

    Derek Jones

    7561 posts

    Great. Actually, we had been talking about an extension like that just the other day, Andy (aka Expresionengineer) hinted at wanting to write a locking one, so this is a bit of a surprise… Most welcome, of course.

    Yes, actually imediately after the thread that you and I both engaged in regarding this, it had been on my to-do list.  I needed to add some new extension hooks, though, as the Wiki module did not have any prior to 1.6.  I do think I recall reading about Andy’s which he wrote for use in a controlled development environment, which had both locks and email notifications when resources are freed up.  I think that’s pretty cool, and definitely has merit for organizations where all the users are essentially “trusted”, but particularly for wikis, and for general consumption, I felt the need to go with something that was much less strict.

    Very nice, will this be an inclusive feature in upcoming EE releases?

    Not in the immediate future, no, particularly if an add-on can accomplish it.  Not every feature, even the “good” ones need to be included in the application by default, as it adds bloat for users who have no use for them.

  • #8 / Jun 25, 2007 12:18pm

    Ingmar

    29245 posts

    I do think I recall reading about Andy’s which he wrote for use in a controlled development environment, which had both locks and email notifications when resources are freed up.

    Yes, slightly more elaborate at any rate. He told me a bit more about it via PM, but his client owns all the rights to the code, so he couldn’t simpyl release it like that.

    I think that’s pretty cool, and definitely has merit for organizations where all the users are essentially “trusted”, but particularly for wikis, and for general consumption, I felt the need to go with something that was much less strict.

    Yes, it’s pretty cool that the wiki’s included. And in almost all cases, a warning will do nicely.

  • #9 / Jun 25, 2007 12:38pm

    Daniel Walton

    553 posts

    Not in the immediate future, no, particularly if an add-on can accomplish it.  Not every feature, even the “good” ones need to be included in the application by default, as it adds bloat for users who have no use for them.

    Whilst I do indeed fully agree with your statement, what I find surprising then is that the trackback module comes installed and active with every EE install. My intention isn’t to start a debate over what is and isn’t useful, but how one perceives what is and isn’t useful.

  • #10 / Jun 25, 2007 12:47pm

    Derek Jones

    7561 posts

    Don’t get me started on trackbacks, the_butcher.  I personally despise the things and wish they would Dodo.  At the time they were originally incorporated into EE they were much more widely used, and there were many bloggers using pMachine Pro that expected this functionality out of the box and ready to go when transitioning to EE, so I’m sure that affected the decision to have it included and enabled by default.

    Ok, back on topic now.

  • #11 / Jun 25, 2007 2:35pm

    Willem de Boer

    142 posts

    Derek, a cool solution for EE 😊 Thx!

  • #12 / Jun 25, 2007 3:34pm

    Ryan M.

    1511 posts

    Yeah, about Trackbac….oops sorry.

    I installed this extension and it is really a nice addition - epecially now that I have some hired help and we are occasionally both working in the control panel at the same time. Thanks!

  • #13 / Jun 25, 2007 10:02pm

    melissah

    25 posts

    Nice! And, providing yours users aren’t a bunch of jerks who will mess with stuff that’s just been edited for the sake of it, useful.

  • #14 / Jun 26, 2007 2:25am

    Biscuiterie

    57 posts

    Derek you are a genius, I need this thing!

  • #15 / Jun 28, 2007 8:08am

    Gabriel

    130 posts

    Thank you Derek about executing my feature request 😊

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