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A few questions about the licensing:
1) Are the added site licenses one-time costs?
2) Are there volume discounts for licenses?
3) Do I now need to purchase separate licenses for subdomains (i.e. forums.domain.com or beta.domain.com)?

Sorry, i meant “per-site above 3”. (having a spacey morning here). At $49/site, that’s NOT cheap for commercial sites. Especially since, for instance, on my personal installation i run ONE commercial site and FOUR noncommercial sites—but would have to pay commercial site prices for all of them.

What i’m suggesting is leave the distinction between comm/noncomm in the base price, but perhaps price ALL add-on licenses the same.

A few questions about the licensing:
1) Are the added site licenses one-time costs?

Yes. Additional Sites and the Multiple Site Manager do not have yearly Download Account Renewal fees.

2) Are there volume discounts for licenses?

The Volume Discount Program applies to the Multiple Site Manager, but not to additional Sites.

3) Do I now need to purchase separate licenses for subdomains (i.e. forums.domain.com or beta.domain.com)?

Only if you want to run them as separate “Sites” through the Multiple Site Manager.

I’m increasingly confused about the change in policy.

Do I understand it correctly?

1) I can run as many domains as my server will handle using the old and now unsupported way.

2) To do it the supported way, I have purchase a license of MSM, which will count towards any volume discounts.

3) If I want to manage more than three sites with MSM, I have to purchase additional licenses (of what, exactly?), which do not count towards the volume discount. Or does it mean that if I want to handle more than three sites with MSM on a single install of EE, I’ll need to accumulate as many MSM licenses as needed to “cover” all the sites and these licenses do count towards the volume discount?

I’m increasingly confused about the change in policy.

There hasn’t been a change in license policy. The only change is that the old method of running multiple domains is no longer supported.

1) I can run as many domains as my server will handle using the old and now unsupported way.

Yes.

2) To do it the supported way, I have purchase a license of MSM, which will count towards any volume discounts.

Yes.

3) If I want to manage more than three sites with MSM, I have to purchase additional licenses (of what, exactly?), which do not count towards the volume discount. Or does it mean that if I want to handle more than three sites with MSM on a single install of EE, I’ll need to accumulate as many MSM licenses as needed to “cover” all the sites and these licenses do count towards the volume discount?

You purchase Additional Sites for the Multiple Site Manager. Individual Site purchases do not count toward the Volume Discount Program. You only need one Multiple Site Manager per EE installation. That gets you 3 Sites total where a Site is a discrete set of weblogs, templates, and associated preferences on your installation. You can purchase Additional Sites as needed.

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Well, Leslie said it all.

Well, Leslie said it all.

Actually, he didn’t. How much is each additional site past the third?

Well, Leslie said it all.

Actually, he didn’t. How much is each additional site past the third?

Additional Sites are $49.95 for Commercial, $24.95 for Personal past the third.

Thanks, Leslie.

Are these additional licenses tied to a specific instance of MSM or can they be dynamically reassigned between installs?

Well, Leslie said it all.

Actually, he didn’t. How much is each additional site past the third?

Full information, including pricing is available at Multiple Site Manager

Full information, including pricing is available at Multiple Site Manager

Duh, the pricing information was right there.

Thanks, Leslie.

Are these additional licenses tied to a specific instance of MSM or can they be dynamically reassigned between installs?

They are tied to the specific instance of MSM and cannot be dynamically reassigned between installations.

Thanks for patiently answering my questions.

The long and short of it is that MSM is not for me.

I think (mind you, THINK) I understand this.  If I’m right, instead of complaining…. it’s a great deal. 

Let’s look at it this way: I have, say, 5 sites on my server I wanted to run.  All are personal licenses.  Before, I could try to do the old way, which seemed a bit flakey.  Or I could buy 5 personal licenses.  Now, I buy ONE personal license, the MSM, and two of the site licenses.  Instead of coughing up 500 bucks, now I have to pay 100 for the personal license, 80 for the MSM, and 50 for the two extra sites.  That gives me 5 “seperate” sites, all personal license, all for the price of 230—less than half the cost of buying 5 licenses before. 

So it’s not that bad, really.  If, that is, I understand it properly.  A big if….

Vanceone, you have it exactly.