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Page Title, browser Page Title and Menu Title

January 12, 2012 10:26am

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  • #1 / Jan 12, 2012 10:26am

    Neil Evans

    1403 posts

    Coming to this from the EE side of things - i really want to query this simple point before i get much deeper.

    When i create a “page” i can enter a title.
    Then on that page i can modify the “page content” and as such put my own H1 tag in which is ideal for SEO.
    However, the page title is then used for the menu, and in theory for the browser page title as well as there is no other way to make this editable.

    Therefore - if I wanted to SEO optimise my title for my home page “Best Blue Widgets” but i wanted the main menu to display this as “Home” - how would i do this?
    I assume the only way is to not use your menu tag and create it manually - which kind of defeats the purpose.
    Or have a missed a tag i can use especially for the browser page title?

    Second brief query about the menu - i understand the logic about this being auto-generated as indented list. However, often designers like to put divides between the menu items… This can be done with padding and borders, but of course, if applied to left/right it will display a divide where it is not wanted on the first/last item.

    Yes i can use psuedo CSS to control :first, but this does not have great support and so i do not like to rely on it. Therefore, considering the approach of Nav-EE and Taxonomy over at EE would you consider adding CSS classes for level, count, etc? Allowing us to setup a custom class for “count_1” to not display the border, or similar. Yes i can use the unique ID generated, but as soon as the client changes something it will break!
    So just a thought/request?

    In the same way for EE are there plugins that can be manually created so i can make my own menu plugin? Or is there a library of ones to use - i.e. devot-ee or similar?

    Thanks, N

  • #2 / Jan 13, 2012 5:58pm

    Dan Decker

    7338 posts

    Hi nevsie,

    Or have a missed a tag i can use especially for the browser page title?

    No, you have not missed anything. There is only the page title tag.

    Yes i can use psuedo CSS to control :first, but this does not have great support and so i do not like to rely on it. Therefore, considering the approach of Nav-EE and Taxonomy over at EE would you consider adding CSS classes for level, count, etc? Allowing us to setup a custom class for “count_1” to not display the border, or similar. Yes i can use the unique ID generated, but as soon as the client changes something it will break!
    So just a thought/request?

    You can certainly make a Feature Request for this, it sound very useful to me!

    In the same way for EE are there plugins that can be manually created so i can make my own menu plugin? Or is there a library of ones to use - i.e. devot-ee or similar?

    There is the MojoAddons site 😊

    Thanks!

  • #3 / Aug 08, 2012 3:59am

    FHeiberg

    4 posts

    Hi

    Is http://mojoaddons.com/index.php/page/outfielder the solution for making a seperate title?

    Thanks
    Flemming

  • #4 / Aug 09, 2012 10:31am

    Shane Eckert

    7174 posts

    Hello FHeiberg,

    It looks like that might be a good solution for that, though I have never used it.

    I would contact the developer before purchasing.

    Thank you,

  • #5 / Aug 09, 2012 10:57am

    FHeiberg

    4 posts

    Hi Shane

    Do you have any other suggestions?

    It’s very important for me that I can have titles that differ from the menuname…

    Thanks
    Flemming

  • #6 / Aug 09, 2012 5:47pm

    Shane Eckert

    7174 posts

    Hey FHeiberg,

    I am afraid that like Dan, I do not have any suggestions. Does that Add-On not work?

    Thank you,

  • #7 / Aug 13, 2012 3:11am

    FHeiberg

    4 posts

    I’ve found this - http://ellislab.com/forums/viewthread/183570/

    A little bit confused over Mojo - the most important for a website is that it can be found - and here is the title very very important.

    Why is the making of a title not default in the system?

  • #8 / Aug 14, 2012 12:21pm

    Dan Decker

    7338 posts

    Hi FHeiberg,

    I’m sorry for your frustrations with MojoMotor.

    Page Title is the only variable available natively in MM and can be used for the page’s title attribute if you like. However, a “page title” and “menu title” option isn’t currently a feature that MojoMotor supports.

    Cheers,

  • #9 / Aug 14, 2012 4:22pm

    FHeiberg

    4 posts

    Does EE support separate Page + Menu titles?

    Why don’t you use mojo:page:title + mojo:page:menu to separate these - it must be simple for you guys?

    Best regards
    Flemming

  • #10 / Aug 15, 2012 2:53pm

    Dan Decker

    7338 posts

    Hi FHeiberg,

    Indeed, ExpressionEngine is much more flexible. And you can import a Mojo site into ExpressionEngine.

    Cheers,

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