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Setting up an EE site is now so tedious and long

March 29, 2011 2:46pm

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  • #16 / May 04, 2011 10:49am

    handyman

    509 posts

    grrramps should be in charge of product development/planning at EL! 😉 The core functionality of EE is what makes it great. Unfortunately your issues list is spot on, and makes it seem like they’re losing touch.

    I would really like to hear Elis Labs respond to your points.

    Re: extras. I sure hope they ditch the forums. There’s already far more modern and capable platforms out there (like Xenforo).

    Well, if you can tell us all how to move our EE forums to XF, I’m all ears…..

    Your opinion on the forums is certainly not shared, as there have been some long conversations on this forum recently about such things…..in cases like mine, the forums represent the entire reason I moved to pmachine and EE…...

    Sure, many forums are ahead of EE…..but having a serious business like mine move to the newest flash in the pan which may have started a year ago…..seems like it’s not always the best move.

    A common login is really the key. I would not mind using a different forum and wiki and keeping the core EE if a perfect member migration tool…along with content migration…existed. But it doesn’t - and I doubt it will.

    Ideally, the move to CI would have “ignited” various tie-in apps with common login…....but it didn’t.

    As of now, the idea of dumping all the extra features and going back to the “core” seems completely backwards! Maybe Photoshop should drop all those extras too, eh?

  • #17 / May 05, 2011 9:06am

    Kernon

    173 posts

    I am in the same camp as ‘handyman’—one of the main reasons I went with EE over other options was precisely because EE had an integrated forum and wiki.  Both of these were requirements.

    I wasn’t familiar with XF so I took a cursory glance at it.  I’m curious why it is being described as so much more than traditional discussion forums?  It says it is discussion forum software.

  • #18 / May 05, 2011 10:29am

    handyman

    509 posts

    I’m curious why it is being described as so much more than traditional discussion forums?  It says it is discussion forum software.

    It is just forum software, but quite modern and already has a large community developing free and low cost add-ons for it.

    You’d have to use the demo to see the features - but there are lots of improvements in there -
    1. click the top of any column and you can sort it down or up.
    2. Lots of options in terms of “x posts until someone can use this other forum”
    3. Lots of following and social media options
    4. Multiple quoting of threads
    5. Advanced Spam Cleaner which members can participate in
    6. Like/dislike features

    I have not dug into XF too far, but this is just the tip of the iceberg. A lot of forum admins may not need these features. The biggest problem with EE is that they have expressed disinterest in their own forum….and forums in general. That, along with the reality of no new features in 3-4 years, does not exactly inspire confidence. Even EE add-on developers seem to ignore the forums.

  • #19 / May 05, 2011 10:37am

    Kernon

    173 posts

    I see!  Thanks for the explanation.

  • #20 / May 10, 2011 2:29pm

    Matt:P

    277 posts

    +1 vote for easy updates!

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