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captchas missing

October 27, 2010 4:38pm

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  • #1 / Oct 27, 2010 4:38pm

    cfp700

    89 posts

    I’m having visitors report that our captcha is missing:

    http://firenews.net/index.php/member/register/

  • #2 / Oct 28, 2010 8:19am

    Sue Crocker

    26054 posts

    Do Captchas work on other parts of the site? Which version/build of EE1.x? You can find this at the bottom of any control panel page.

  • #3 / Nov 05, 2010 6:55pm

    cfp700

    89 posts

    No, I don’t see them in any of the locations.

    1.6.9

  • #4 / Nov 07, 2010 9:35am

    Greg Salt

    3988 posts

    Hi cfp700,

    Can you confirm that captchas did indeed display as intended at some point? Do you have any extensions installed? What settings do you have at Admin > System Preferences > Captcha Preferences?

    Cheers

    Greg

  • #5 / Nov 07, 2010 5:46pm

    cfp700

    89 posts

    Yes, they did work before. We had to do a complete rebuild this past summer after a crash.

    When I go to Extensions Mgr within Utilities, I get a blank page (does not resolve)

    At Admin/System Prefs/Captcha Prefs:

    Server path: /netapp/whnas-swamp/s11/s11/01703/www.firenews.net/webdocs/images/captchas/

    Full URL: http://firenews.net/images/captchas/

    Y

    Y

    N

  • #6 / Nov 08, 2010 10:46am

    Sue Crocker

    26054 posts

    When I go to Extensions Mgr within Utilities, I get a blank page (does not resolve)

    Not a good sign.

    Can you turn on debugging in the root version of index.php?

    $debug = 1
  • #7 / Dec 18, 2010 8:32pm

    rgbink

    63 posts

    Yet another support issue with no solution and no followup.

    I’m having the same issue. Here’s the specs:

    v2.1.0, Build:  20100712

    Captchas were appearing, as described above, but now do not in one of my Contact forms. The captcha code is indeed in the template. The captcha appears in another Contact form (both of them are Freeform forms, and, actually, identical code except for some of the form labels). The content is in the same channel, and they both pull from the same template.

    Captchas are not required when logged in, so this is a case of a user who is not logged in being unable to use the Contact/Feedback forms as they are told they need to enter the Captcha info.

    Interesting point: if I turn to “yes” the preference “Require CAPTCHA with logged-in members?” then all is fine (excepting the requirement of captchas for my members) both logged in and out. Almost seems like something’s stuck in the session id or the cache or whatever, as both I and my members are often in one state or the other of login/logout. Started getting complaints from the site (via private email since they couldn’t complete the Contact form) and then I started to have the problem as well.

    I’m guessing it’s just a matter of time until the form that’s working ceases to.

    Help. Please. 740+ members and it’s going to get hairy.

  • #8 / Dec 20, 2010 7:12am

    John Henry Donovan

    12339 posts

    dashard,

    I replied to you on your previous thread here
    Could you follow up on your outstandign answers please that you havent answered above.

    What do you have in your template for that form?

    What do you have set in your Captcha preferences?
    Admin > System Preferences > Captcha Preferences

    Can you run our server wizard to see if your server is capable of generating captchas

    What are the permissions on your /images/captchas folder?

    Are you using any add-ons?

    Is your Captcha issue with the same install of EE as above?
    If not what version and build of EE are you using?

    Also can you create a blank template and add the examaple contact form code from the docs and test with that please?

    As recommended in other thread it would be a good idea to update your version of EE so we are all troubleshooting from the same page.

  • #9 / Dec 20, 2010 12:46pm

    dehuszar

    99 posts

    I’m not sure if this is what other people are seeing, but I just upgraded to 2.1.2 and moved a dev server into production on a different hosting package than the development server, so I’m not sure if it’s the hosting package, upgrade, or my having missed an important detail.

    Regardless, I’m finding that all new generated captchas are loading with heavily restricted permissions.  If I go through and chmod all the captcha images to 777, then it’s all golden for about 20min. 

    After that it starts getting randomly harder to load captchas as new images begin to show up with permissions of 644, and one is strangely set to 640.

    I can set up a cron to make it stay put, but that’s a really bad kludge.  Any advice?

  • #10 / Dec 20, 2010 2:17pm

    dehuszar

    99 posts

    Turns out Network Solutions doesn’t support 0777 permissions, so I had to set everything to 0775 and that seems to have solved the problem…  except for the fact their MySQL server has pewped the bed.  God I hate these guys.

  • #11 / Dec 21, 2010 4:38am

    John Henry Donovan

    12339 posts

    Gad you are up and running dehuszar.

    dashard,

    Where are you now with your Captcha issue?

  • #12 / Dec 21, 2010 12:30pm

    dehuszar

    99 posts

    Turns out not to be the fix after all.  Time to convince the client to go to Dreamhost.  Going to upgrade to 2.1.3 and see if that helps.

  • #13 / Dec 22, 2010 5:12am

    John Henry Donovan

    12339 posts

    dehuszar,

    Ok let us know how you get on with the upgrade

  • #14 / Dec 22, 2010 11:10am

    dehuszar

    99 posts

    The upgrade had no effect.  Network solutions was the problem.  Moved the client’s live-site to Dreamhost where the devsite was and all is well. 

    Let that be a lesson to folks.  Don’t let your clients waste money on bad hosts.  😉

  • #15 / Dec 22, 2010 8:40pm

    Brandon Jones

    5500 posts

    Hi dehuszar, glad you found the culprit!

    dashard, please continue troubleshooting your other thread for clarity. Thanks!

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