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I really like codeigniter.  I’ve found it to be easy to work with.  I was wondering what others thought on listing sites designed with CI.  I mean, it doesn’t inspire anyone to use CI when they see joe blows web design and a few other websites have used it.  Is there any big names that have used it?  It kind of looks bad that CI has a list of basic developers experiments, some of which no longer exist, and others that well, I wouldn’t consider to be high profile work.

http://codeigniter.com/projects/
http://codeigniter.com/wiki/Applications_Using_Code_Igniter/

MPORA.com, a YouTube clone for the action sports niche, is powered by CI.

... It kind of looks bad that CI ... and others that well, I wouldn’t consider to be high profile work.

You sound like the perfect developer who should add something to the Wiki. Perhaps your high profile work will be what takes CI to the next level. There are lots of people who use CI that don’t participate in the forum, and I’m sure haven’t let us know their site is based on CI. Perhaps CI could benefit from a big name website claiming that they use CI, but who cares? I had honestly never gave it a thought. I could care less who uses CI. What’s important to me is that it exists.

do you really disagree?  I mean, look at some of the websites listed far above the fold:

http://dearie6.com/
http://sharedfollowers.com/ -> doesn’t work

don’t get me wrong, there’s some decent work listed too, and even a few good ones, but i think it might be a little too easy to make the list.  I would think the projects page, featured in the main navigation, would be used to really showcase the framework.  it would also be nice to see some featured / high profile users which can only help the effort.  i.e. zend framework likes dropping some big names, and it helps.  Even non high profile, how about hospitals, small businesses, corporations… again, personal websites and tutorial blogs with bad graphics, etc… just don’t inspire and ensure confidence in the product.  Personally i think CI is the best framework I’ve used to date, and I’ve tried all of the popular ones.  I’d like to see it’s popularity grow but posting turds wrapped in a class doesn’t make anyone want to adopt the use of the framework for enterprise level development.  Perhaps someone can rethink this section of the website, as well as the websites listed in the wiki to showcase CI.  Just my opinion.

Want a big name? Expression Engine 2.0

http://expressionengine.com/public_beta/

do you really disagree?  I mean, look at some of the websites listed far above the fold:

http://dearie6.com/
http://sharedfollowers.com/ -> doesn’t work

don’t get me wrong, there’s some decent work listed too, and even a few good ones, but i think it might be a little too easy to make the list.  I would think the projects page, featured in the main navigation, would be used to really showcase the framework.  it would also be nice to see some featured / high profile users which can only help the effort.  i.e. zend framework likes dropping some big names, and it helps.  Even non high profile, how about hospitals, small businesses, corporations… again, personal websites and tutorial blogs with bad graphics, etc… just don’t inspire and ensure confidence in the product.  Personally i think CI is the best framework I’ve used to date, and I’ve tried all of the popular ones.  I’d like to see it’s popularity grow but posting turds wrapped in a class doesn’t make anyone want to adopt the use of the framework for enterprise level development.  Perhaps someone can rethink this section of the website, as well as the websites listed in the wiki to showcase CI.  Just my opinion.

I see what your saying, but without people stepping forward to share that they are using CI, how do you know who is using CI? For instance, let’s say that a big company like Coke of Toyota was using CI. Do you really think they would come and ask to be on the projects page? Highly doubtful.

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Also, part of the problem is there isn’t really any incentive to say “We use CI”. What’s the upside? If you are a big name, being listed as a CI project doesn’t mean much to you. If you want to get listed, its probably because you don’t already have a lot of mind share or traffic.

Facebook, as far as I’m aware, is a bit unusual in that its actually clear its written in PHP. Many big sites don’t even expose that much information about their internal system. Twitter is unusual in that it actually says its built on Ruby On Rails. Google uses a big hodgepodge of languages including C and Python, but doesn’t admit to using much of anything that they didn’t themselves create.

It’s not that I don’t agree it would be nice to list some more big projects, but I guess I’m at a loss for what the actionable step really is. If they already know it uses CI, it’s probably on the list. But if they don’t know, how can they find out? There is nothing in the system or structure of CI that gives much of any hint that CI is being used, save perhaps the 404 error page - but any big project would over-ride the default to provide their own implementation of that, anyway.

I would suggest it is not wise at all to disclose what framework you use to develop a site. It simply leave you wide open to hackattack!

This is not in anyway a criticism of CI security credentials, it’s just if a hacker knows the codebase your site is running on it presents him with one less hurdle.

I agree with Loquela, exposing what your site is based on is a bit risky. It is a big shame as knowing that you are working on the same playing filed say as MPORA.com can give you a little inspiration

Are there really any known CI security vulnerabilities?

If you an expose one of these problems there are http://codeigniter.com/bug_tracker/list/. Although I couldn’t really find much there. If you write your applications securely then you don’t have much to worry about.