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Ello everyone.

Okay this will be bigger post but I can’t take it any more so read it or skip it. Thanks anyway 😊

First I will say who we are, than I will explain and tell in details what we need.

Who we are?

We are small not for profit organization called Waveself. It’s hard to explain what waveself is due to really complex idea but I’ll do my best. Waveself idea is to become first Metaphysic Personal Semantic Entertainment Platform on our world wide web. Something what I can’t describe in few words. Rather in days if you ask me. Our idea is to gather complete entertainment and pack it into one massive and brilliant half web 3.0 (for now) platform free of charge where people will be able to do incredible things. If you want to hear a little bit more in details, please contact me over pm or e-mail (at bottom of this post). I ain’t gonna say anything else about idea due to a lot of things. The only thing I will say is this:

I spend 6 years searching for one good idea and finally I found it. There where over 2000 ideas before this one so I gotta say this is unique, niche and really kick-ass. A lot of people said better than facebook, myspace, twitter all together but I don’t give a shit about if it’s better or not. I just want to see that ‘thing’ up n running in alpha mode as soon as possible. I can only say that this is advanced social media platform built on totally different principals than current ones.

Platform = Ajax Driven
Env & Co. = PHP 5.3, MySQL 5, SQLite, Google Gears, Java, Python, XHTML Strict(later HTML5), CSS3, CodeIgniter, Zend Framework, etc…. 5 servers at start. Constructed at beginning to support CDN as a lot of other mayor platform segments. Open Source 😊

IE folks, well… I think that we will allow access with IE when Microsoft launches Internet Explorer 13. Only sophisticated CSS3 web browsers like Firefox 3.5+, Safari (probably 4), Chrome, Opera. For mobile well that’s different story.

Eta alpha     = depends but max 3 months
Eta beta     = depends but max 6-7 months
Eta release 1.0 = 2-3 years
Eta final idea = 6-8 years of development.

Sponsors are waiting for first alpha release. Some of those are really big ones. People are here, a lot of required things are here but one thing isn’t and that is…

We need kick-ass designer

- Who can spend some of his time to help build this thing up. Idea is brilliant but if design sucks (and it sucks atm) than well… you understand it right lol.
- Who knows how to design brutal web 2.0 layouts, UI and who already have ideas about better things than Web 2.0 and UI together. We got concepts, bla bla bla, and we are in search for someone who can transfer idea into reality (layout) but really kick-ass layout.
- Well familiar with CSS 3.
- If you are closely related to music, film, news, radio, television, etc… a.k.a entertainment and you know what metaphysic is than you are perfect one.

I know that at start we cannot pay that person but look on this. It’s based upon metaphysic principals. It’s free of charge. No premium no bullshits like that at ALL! Open source and behind all of that is NOT FOR PROFIT organization. We are all musicians, entertainment enthusiasts and 2 of us are really good devs who are really in need to get better entertainment platform for ourselves at first. Platform where we can actually do something and not 293819208391023 platforms where we can do… A really big question mark.

As well we all work on this when we can. We all got our jobs but (2 devs got 5 hours approx per day) with time we want to make this our primary job and focus completely on this.

Platform is big, it will be done in stages and we really need some help inhere. Alpha can be here in next 3 months. Sponsors can be here in next 3-3.5 months and than things will be easier a lot.

If you are in, drop something to:

Skype: nevio.vesic
E-mail: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
or here, PM.

Cheers.

P.s. We are deadly serious about this.

I know that at start we cannot pay that person but look on this. It’s based upon metaphysic principals. It’s free of charge. No premium no bullshits like that at ALL! Open source and behind all of that is NOT FOR PROFIT organization.

don’t know how these lines will motivate a designer/coder to work with you, as long as I don’t see enough info about the benefit. However, if you look for a designer/coder to take your job, s/he must be rewarded at some stage, and these should be clearly stated in any post of work.

This post is the best premium bullshit I’ve heard.

Web 3.0 for 8 years and no payment because it is a “NOT FOR PROFIT” organization.

Web 3.0 for 8 years and no payment because it is a “NOT FOR PROFIT” organization.

You forgot the no IE - because excluding the majority of users out there is going to make it take off so much faster. 😉

Haha this is pretty planned out bullshit.

I’ll response later. Need to go weed-up myself… Anyway, good point folks bullshit it is but I will just say that it’s 231 page of bullshit so.

IE users = I don’t give a shit because we re not doing it to get billions millions dollar or whatever. There is higher purpose here.

But later I will write down a little bit more to all.

I couldn’t help thinking about this similar - must read! - article

Looking at a few of my websites analytics, 75% use a version of Internet Explorer. Is there a higher purpose that makes it reasonable to demand that 75% of people use a different browser?

I know that at start we cannot pay that person but look on this. It’s based upon metaphysic principals. It’s free of charge. No premium no bullshits like that at ALL! Open source and behind all of that is NOT FOR PROFIT organization.

don’t know how these lines will motivate a designer/coder to work with you, as long as I don’t see enough info about the benefit. However, if you look for a designer/coder to take your job, s/he must be rewarded at some stage, and these should be clearly stated in any post of work.

Of course. But I ain’t gonna post it here. Persons who re interested will easily find out their place in this. And that person who help out will have more than just benefits and or rewards.

This post is the best premium bullshit I’ve heard.

Web 3.0 for 8 years and no payment because it is a “NOT FOR PROFIT” organization.

Good for You 😊

But where did you saw that I wrote Web 3.0 for 8 years? You don’t know anything about this idea so saying that it’s bullshit… Well what to say… It’s useless to spend any more words. Web 3.0 don’t even exist atm and all ideas what we all got will be changed with years.  AS well web 3.0 will not fully come at least before 2014 so WTF are you talking about? Next you don’t even got bloody clue what we all have in plans for 8 years.

Web 3.0 for 8 years and no payment because it is a “NOT FOR PROFIT” organization.

You forgot the no IE - because excluding the majority of users out there is going to make it take off so much faster. 😉

Well I joked about excluding all users lol 😊 Only IE 8 users will have access. Tbe. Latest browser version always.

Haha this is pretty planned out bullshit.

Yes 😊

I couldn’t help thinking about this similar - must read! - article

I am in search for metaphysic designer as I told that few times before. As well I will not say anything else because it seems that you as a lot of other people don’t know what metaphysic is. Still you posted and waisted your time. If you know that you are not person which we are looking for why did you reply? Just to waste time or to show how good re ya? Well first of all I know for that article and I know for ‘the situation’. I am web developer for last 10 years so u don’t need to teach me about some core human features. As I said. We are interested in metaphysic designer. Instead of waisting your energy by replying on my post, maybe you could invest that energy into something better. And by sayin that project is bullshit without deep understanding about project you re just saying how much unprofessional you are. It’s obviously that you don’t like people at all and we don’t need that kind of people around waveself. Clear enough?

Looking at a few of my websites analytics, 75% use a version of Internet Explorer. Is there a higher purpose that makes it reasonable to demand that 75% of people use a different browser?

Brian, I am not stupid that much but we are not doing this for people who use IE. The most of people who will use this are not IE users. At most mac users or users who really know for FF, Chrome or for example Opera. We will allow IE8. IE7, IE6 well they will get nice message with nice reason why and nice link how. It’s not that simple and in order to understand waveself, you gotta know a lot more.

Generally, Okay folks. It seems that you like to be rude without any knowledge about idea, current progress stage and well… a lot of things more. I don’t give a shit about negative people so… Please go try to find next victim because I ain’t gonna be one of those people. And if you all love to lick world wide client ass in hope to create something go ahead. I ain’t gonna be like that no matter how immature this sounds like. Still, I have solutions for all major problems and because of that, I will say again. Before you can say that it’s bullshit you gotta know a lot more. If you say than I will say GOOD for telling me your thoughts and I will be gratefull for that because I will try find way how to fix that as well.

And one more thing. If you are good web designer and KNOW your job. Person who more like to work than fantasize about bunch of problems but jet non of solutions. If you are person who understand truly metaphysic meaning and you have higher goals in your life than sitting and listening bunch of creative directors who don’t know their job as well well you are welcome to drop few things in mail written above. And yes… Money must be way how to survive for you and not everything you need from this world. We are not materialistic people so we don’t want that kind of people near waveself team. Not because we don’t like that kind of people, it’s because people like that cannot run nor choose what’s the best for waveself.

I hope that you all understood me! If not, well try to read again. If that won’t help well… What to say… If obviously that you are not persons compatible to be for this like bullshits.

Given your initial post, it is rather impossible to take you seriously - therefore, the only remaining options are a) ignore you, b) make fun of you, or c) attempt to verify one’s first impressions before making a final decision. Or the route I will now take for the next five minutes - explaining just precisely why any other response is largely impossible.

We are small not for profit organization called Waveself. It’s hard to explain what waveself is due to really complex idea but I’ll do my best. ... Something what I can’t describe in few words. Rather in days if you ask me.

Your idea is complex, difficult, hard to explain, etc - rather than being something that is very simple that defies explanation, it is actually so large and comprehensive and groundbreaking that it apparently is beyond normal humans to conceive of it.

But, you try anyway:

Waveself idea is to become first Metaphysic Personal Semantic Entertainment Platform on our world wide web.

You start with nonsense and buzzwords. It’s the first of whatever it is though. I’m trying to contain myself, so I will refrain from posting the definition of things like ‘metaphysic’ and ‘semantic’. I will point out that my next project, the Teratogenic Ocelot Accordance Paradigm Schematic Waveform Framework will blow yours out of the water.

Our idea is to gather complete entertainment and pack it into one massive and brilliant half web 3.0 (for now) platform free of charge where people will be able to do incredible things. ... A lot of people said better than facebook, myspace, twitter all together but I don’t give a shit about if it’s better or not. ... We are all musicians, entertainment enthusiasts and 2 of us are really good devs who are really in need to get better entertainment platform for ourselves at first. Platform where we can actually do something and not 293819208391023 platforms where we can do…

So far you have defined a project scope of “every thing every big website does, but put together and done better”.

Before I continue…do you get the fact that each individual platform has large teams of developers developing individually for multiple years, each with hundreds of million dollar budgets, just to achieve what they have done so far? And most of them lose money - but its venture capital money, so Twitter for instance is allowed to continue to exist.

You have defined, and clearly stated, that you have a project of extra-ordinary complexity, and that it is to be the first of its kind. You want to go beyond present technology, so you also plan to conduct research and move forward the technology of the internet itself.

Damn. Facebook just wanted to allow people to keep in touch after they graduated college, and help inter-school communication. Youtube just wanted people to share videos. Twitter was just a silly idea a few folks decided to try. Many like them tried and failed…but you set out to outdo what they have grown to become.

So, ok, lets say I believe you aren’t off your nut or so in love with your idea that you can’t see it for what it is. Lets say it is a great idea.

First, lets see the proposed technologies:

Platform = Ajax Driven
Env & Co. = PHP 5.3, MySQL 5, SQLite, Google Gears, Java, Python, XHTML Strict(later HTML5), CSS3, CodeIgniter, Zend Framework, etc…. 5 servers at start. Constructed at beginning to support CDN as a lot of other mayor platform segments. Open Source

Before continuing…open source? Why on earth be so secretive about the project if it is going to be free, not for profit, and open source?

Back to the point…again, damn. Two DB technologies? 3 server-side scripting technologies, and then two PHP frameworks…etc?? Why not throw Ruby On Rails, Perl, and a couple of Flex frameworks into the mix too?

Later thrown in is Web 3.0 and CSS3. Planning ahead is good…I suppose? To most of us, that just makes us giggle.

OK, so now that you have defined a requirement for thousands of dollars in hardware (apparently the project is so big that it needs 5 servers just to host it’s alpha), a multi-disciplinary skill set that includes at least 3 server-side scripting languages so far, all for a project of a larger scope and complexity than even Google Wave ever pretended to encompass.

So what mad resources do you propose to do this with?

2 devs got 5 hours approx per day

+ a ‘kick-ass designer’, and other people - who I won’t even comment on, because if they can’t code they are beyond the scope of this critique.

And how long will this take?

Eta alpha   = depends but max 3 months

And then sometime after that there will be ‘sponsors’ to make things easier, after the alpha is done.

...do you really think ANYONE with half a brain will take you seriously after an intro like that? What you have said is indistinguishable from a) a scammer or b) a crackpot. It’s not about attitude, or personality, or karma, or metaphysics, or morals, or vision. If it looks like a duck, and walks like a duck, and sounds like a duck, it is not right to say that other people are short-sighted or morally deficient or ‘rude’ because they do not believe that ‘it’ is something other than precisely what it appears to be.

You state we have no knowledge about the idea, progress, or a lot of other things - but we know only precisely what you have told us, which is a) it is at least months away from alpha (current progress stage), b) it is something like a combination of all the most popular websites on the web rolled into one (idea), and c) you said plenty else, including proposed hardware requirements (which makes no sense to be able to know how many servers you need to start with when you are months away from even alpha, unless your present code is actually so horribly badly designed that you already know you’ll need that many just to make it work), among other things.

So far it seems very much that you are looking for some poor bastard to waste a lot of time and probably money on a bad project, and that both me personally and surely offends others for a variety of reasons.

Then you end with this sort of rubbish:

And one more thing. If you are good web designer and KNOW your job. Person who more like to work than fantasize about bunch of problems but jet non of solutions. If you are person who understand truly metaphysic meaning and you have higher goals in your life than sitting and listening bunch of creative directors who don’t know their job as well well you are welcome to drop few things in mail written above.

Now you deeply offend me, because you now appear to be seeking to take advantage of depressed people who aren’t in a good position in life and are unhappy in their profession and you seek to offer them a wave of grandiose ideas and promises that it is utterly impossible for you to deliver on. If so suckered they would contribute much of their time, energy, and again likely money to support a project that have been led to ‘believe in’ only to go on for weeks, months, maybe even years to find they are much worse than where they started.

So go ahead, claim how they laughed at Einstein too and claim we just don’t have vision and have moral failures because we have enough intelligence and already have the experience of having run into people like you before in our lives. Yes, yes, you’ll show us, shake fist, blah blah blah.

You’ll need to go look someone else for idiots to throw away their efforts on you. Maybe try some of the multi-level marketing sites where people are already clearly desperate and don’t apply critical thinking to things they are offered.

Meanwhile, why not end with a proverb: “He who sows the wind shall reap the whirlwind.”

Let’s throw in the words of Buddha as well:

It is proper for you, Kalamas, to doubt, to be uncertain;uncertainty has arisen in you about what is doubtful. Come, Kalamas. Do not go upon what has been acquired by repeated hearing; nor upon tradition; nor upon rumor; nor upon what is in a scripture; nor upon surmise; nor upon an axiom; nor upon specious reasoning; nor upon a bias towards a notion that has been pondered over; nor upon another’s seeming ability; nor upon the consideration, ‘The monk is our teacher.’ Kalamas, when you yourselves know: ‘These things are bad; these things are blamable; these things are censured by the wise; undertaken and observed, these things lead to harm and ill,’ abandon them.

A LOT!

Wow, you actually took time to go logic on his ass?
Nice written post, though.

Sums it all up.
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@Nevio:
What exactly is a ‘Metaphysic Personal Semantic Entertainment Platform’?
Word games about your favorite religon?
I’m really anxious to know…

1.) It’s not complex that much. I am very aware that it’s impossible to do some things but still u don’t know what I have so.

2.) Okay, yes I said buzzword when I said that but I am trying to do that because I spend last 5 years on AI so. Something I gotta have right? And btw I know 5 languages. I am sorry if that thing offend you but pal I am tryin to do that. Seriously lol. Maybe that’s nonsense for you, for me it isn’t.

3.) No it’s not what every good website have and we are not going in that direction because of:

a.) We don’t want that
b.) It’s impossible as you said.

This shit is smaller than it seems you are thinking. By 1 person alpha can be develop in next 3 months. By alpha I did not said what will be done didn’t I?

I am not idiot man. I am not trying to do something what I can’t do and we are going slowly ahead.

“Before continuing…open source? Why on earth be so secretive about the project if it is going to be free, not for profit, and open source?”

Because you re not telling good ideas to everyone publicly. I want to tell about it when I finish first alpha version. Personally I don’t want to say idea and to be able understand idea, well, I don’t got that much time to write down everything I want to. We are doing big video so it will be explained there. 

“So, ok, lets say I believe you aren’t off your nut or so in love with your idea that you can’t see it for what it is. Lets say it is a great idea.”

Yes I am in love in this idea and I see what it is. Because of that I got myself in love in it.

“Back to the point…again, damn. Two DB technologies? 3 server-side scripting technologies, and then two PHP frameworks…etc?? Why not throw Ruby On Rails, Perl, and a couple of Flex frameworks into the mix too?

Later thrown in is Web 3.0 and CSS3. Planning ahead is good…I suppose? To most of us, that just makes us giggle.

OK, so now that you have defined a requirement for thousands of dollars in hardware (apparently the project is so big that it needs 5 servers just to host it’s alpha), a multi-disciplinary skill set that includes at least 3 server-side scripting languages so far, all for a project of a larger scope and complexity than even Google Wave ever pretended to encompass.

So what mad resources do you propose to do this with?”

Now you are asking good questions 😊

1.) Some of those things are here because of better caching.

2.)CSS3 is here because it’s better. You know that too and personally I would love to do some design tricks w/o implementing 1 line of javascript more.

3.) Yea I am trying and planning ahead because if I do hard work, in future maybe I will be able to do something.

4.) I’ll not use ROR nor Flex (ATM) but perl will be and it is ATM.

5.) No you don’t need that much hardware. For alpha beta and release it’s enough to have few servers. I just want ‘em on start. I am not doing this for people outside entertainment so… A told that before didn’t I? For start it’s enough 1 server.

“Now you deeply offend me, because you now appear to be seeking to take advantage of depressed people who aren’t in a good position in life and are unhappy in their profession and you seek to offer them a wave of grandiose ideas and promises that it is utterly impossible for you to deliver on. If so suckered they would contribute much of their time, energy, and again likely money to support a project that have been led to ‘believe in’ only to go on for weeks, months, maybe even years to find they are much worse than where they started.”

No that’s not true. I am really happy with IT but I am really unhappy with this world ok? And believe me that i know what I am talking about because u don’t even got clue what’s going in my head. I don’t have hart to do that kind of shits to same people. U got really bad picture about me and you don’t even know me.

Anyway to sum this up.

Idea is smaller but bellow it it will be something different in order to make it as faster as it can be. Idea can be big one day, if and lol… I am not going there atm because it’s not time to go there and my plans are quite different than most of websites have so.

Anyway. I know design to some level where I can do this and I don’t need ya. It will sucks to some point but not entirely. If this will take me 3 more months to do it, well okay I don’t have problems with that. Idea is smaller and I don’t need anyone to do it. I got all knowledge i need to successfully finish this idea.

“What exactly is a ‘Metaphysic Personal Semantic Entertainment Platform’?
Word games about your favorite religon?
I’m really anxious to know…”

Okay. Free service where entertainment people can make their dreams to come true. How? It’s not important how but it’s possible to do it. And yea it’s not religion. It’s just based on few metaphysic principals.

I just wanted to do it with someone who’s good in design. To make it even better and try contribute to this ‘world’ if you can call this shit world. And yes, Brian at start I did not said anything to you I said something to other people who called this bullshit w/o even knowing idea at all.

Maybe I am nuts for ya all. Maybe I am just good manipulator for ya all. I will say that I am nuts of this shit world who don’t even know how to do ONE thing that’s actually good. For me it’s enough of watching that entertainment if falling apart and loosing it’s true spirit. I am sick of people who only think on themselves and I am sick of negative people 24/7. Am I nuts because of that, yes. I am glad that I am nuts because of that because I would love to burn down complete ideology of this world. Okay? But I ain’t gonna do that and it’s good that I don’t wanna do that because that would be massacre.

I don’t give a shit about people and if you wan’t truly, you can all nuke yourself and get your asses of this planet as mine as well. This planet will be hole lot better without us people and I will firstly go off this planet if that will help planet itself and not us, people, idiots who only wish to totally destroy this planet with really good ideas like leaving out complete Africa to suffer from hunger.

Want the truth. I am waking up every morning with all of those on my head. I already exploded and said to myself who give a shit about ya all! ( I am 16 years inside of metaphysic and metaphysic is not religion. ) So I don’t need ya. I need few things in my life and I already got that. I don’t even need to use waveself to feed myself. Do you understand that? I don’t work at ALL and I have income. I don’t work for fancy corporations where I cannot say a shit.  Just sit and work and work and work without helping out idea as much as I can. I don’t like to have someone above me because I DID NOT allow that person to be above me. And yes I am really deep manipulator who understands NLP better than you think. And I don’t like that someone is in command above me and if there is someone like that I will fuk him up no matter who he is or she or whatever fuck that is. You really don’t even got idea who I am and what I am capable of doing. But I am who I am here asking for fucking HELP to do something moral and try to make something GOOD for people once.

So I am manipulator, idiot, nuts like ALL of you are! I am just not pretending and I am saying this out loud that I AM who I AM! You don’t like that I don’t give a blip.

So please don’t tell me that I am offending you because I will fuck innocent people. Instead try to look on positives side and maybe if you are willing to maybe you can actually find out what I have in my mind. Maybe than you will see that I am trying to HELP out those who DON’T have and I would die for it if it’s a must. Yes, actually there exist people who don’t see world in being rich and having all those things. Instead I would love to have just what really need and I already got that so.

Sounds redecilous? Well I’ll just say to you few things:
I know, PHP - JavaScript - C - Perl - Python. Another one know Java as many other things as well. Is that enough for making fluid app? Well, flex cannot be fast as this can be nor even ASP.NET nor every bullshit we all got. Forgot to mention ROR. So please don’t say to me anything about speed. I’m building this on PHP 5.3 with latest but latest improvements by php and if you want the truth I am waiting for 2012 lol. (how much will all technology progress in next few years?) Bellow are 4 stages of compressions (caching) created to speed up app totally. This app will be in right place for right people in right time so I HAVE TIME and I am not hurrying up myself nowhere because I know that it will not work if I do that. Second. CI is faster for some things. ZF is faster for some things and I don’t have plans to write down complete libs. Actually I want to use already existing ones, but good ones and make something powerful WITH TIME!
I know CSS 2-3, A lot of XML standards as HTML 5 if you want the truth. I am not using it but I understand THE big point and I am waiting for it (HTML5).
As well I know what Social Media is and what you need to have behind it. I am not stupid and i know that you need millions of dollars to make something. But if you have solution to make it without that much of millions well… I have IT! Is that enough for you?

Why I called it like that well… sorry but that’s the BEST description I can give you. Personal because it’s personal. I am not doing it to be for 129312012312 people. I am doing it to be representation of YOU. Not waveself.
Semantic, because bellow it is inspector. AI who will learn. I already wrote down algorithms for self-learning in sections where I want it to be able evolve. What I have plans inhere you don’t want to know. I’ll just say that i have 10 TB of data on my pc and he’s processing it for last 6 months. And yea… you’ll say now u know how big caching you need to have for this. Well, I solve that problems because I am working with AI for last few YEARS every day.
Entertainment = Because it’s created for entertainment. Because we are all musicians and we would love to make something for same kind of people. Maybe to be able create app where they can success after all.
Platform = because it’s platform. From start it’s platform. Small one but platform!

Not profitable = because we don’t give a shit about your money. Instead, invest in yourself or in those people who really need it because they are sooo god dammit good and you want to see ‘em more because you think that they deserve it.

So please, Don’t tell me about what I have! This is 0.0001% of all i have in my mind. The tiniest pieces of everything. And I don’t need anyone at start do finish what i have already started a long time ago!

One thing more. 99% of entertainment people understand Metaphysic well. Over 100 million users know what metaphysic is and they DON’T HAVE a place where they can be WHO they ARE. Did ya all listen music and it’s words? If not. I suggest ya all to do the same thing because they are talking something to all of ya. Did you knew that people like that don’t like to use facebook anymore because it’s starting to be really annoying for em?

Brian. I am trying to do good things inhere in case you didn’t know and I don’t want to hurt anyone or any existing platform on web not because I can’t. It’s because I don’t even want that. I am not destroyer. I want to create and make something good. So you can shit about me how ever you like to as any other person with you. You all can shit about me. I don’t give a blip 😊

And people. I am not saying that anyone of you are bad. I know how it’s going on web with free service. I am not idiot. I know that you need to survive and eat every day. I am just saying that I am not one of those people because MONEY is not the first thing when I wake up. Honest and deep smile of some person is that thing why I am doing this. I am living in real life with same ideology and I am living my life with same ideology on world wide web. Lastly, I will do whatever I need to do to make this happen.

If you don’t understand that well. I am so sorry but as I said. Metaphysic world is little bit different than ya all think.

So sorry but I said myself that I will stop to say it would be nice. Now I’ll do that instead of saying it. People are lazy and scared like shit. I am not!

Should I say that designer have to fix like 10 layouts for all at start? How much of your time is that? To pro designer how much time is that if you know your job and you have time well a lot. We are not in hurry with this so? Really, Am I asking a lot? If I am asking a lot for this than this world is completely fuk nuts. You don’t even need to do CSS XHTML slicing. I am writing down app from which I WILL NOT take money. I will give it freely to everyone including hackers and mission of this website is well… Scary. + I am waisting my free time (12 hours approx) per day for what? 0 Dollars because of ideology. So don’t tell me that your work is soo god dammit precious. It is yes but reconsider the facts I said above you need to make good haircut and I have to build person again free of charge. Donated my time, time of complete waveself to give you nuts like I am something where you will feel like home. We don’t even got privacy and policy. We got our codex and I already have scripts where you can change what ever you want at waveself on the fly. Without even knowing design or programming.

Understand that metaphysic is not a game and it’s not something to be fun of. Metaphysic is something greater than all of us and it’s not freakin religion. Instead metaphysic is solution for world wide problems and people are scared like shit of that. Every day over few thousand people start to realize that metaphysic is good. ATM there is over 100+ million people from 14 - 50 years who understand it and by 2012 there will be so much people who actually understand it that it will become a disease like this swajn (hah) shit is.

Guys, I can do it like this all day if I want to lol. Still you will understand what waveself is after few months of working with us. Because of that I will stop right now and take response of ya all as big NO. So thanks on your time, thanks for all words but it seems that I gotta do this by myself and that’s okay. Who bloody cares.

People love to think that they catch gods Kahonas. Your ego is something what’s so amassing lol. Well… It’s not like that and we people are destroyin each other everyday not because someone did something. It’s because of you, singular person who’s fuked up in his brain. I am like that as well. We are ALL like that as well. Just there exist people who don’t like that feature of themselves and their mission is to leave something behind themselves for ALL. Not just themselves, their children or family. 

Clear enough?

Here you go shitty project image as well. I can’t do it better than this ATM and this is like 10th design so far so.

http://img189.yfrog.com/img189/5514/lah.png

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