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That speaks volumes.

Security is only one of many reasons why EE is stand out product. There are elements of Joomla, WP and friends that I truly like, though they tend to be cosmetic in nature (WP’s new control panel, for example), but where it matters (see above and above) EE is a delightful platform.

Thanks for all the input guys.

Is it that the core Joomla files are perfectly stable and it’s just certain extensions that suffer security issues?

Also, what about if you need a certain custom module, something that is not catered for in the EE module list? Are new modules easily customisable?

If so, would this then create security risks with EE?

Is it that the core Joomla files are perfectly stable and it’s just certain extensions that suffer security issues?

Generally, Joomla is fine. It suffers from a steady stream of security issues not prevalent in EE, and, by nature, the Joomla structure makes it very easy to set up, very difficult to customize.

Add ons of any kind may present security issues, of course. Choose wisely.

Also, what about if you need a certain custom module, something that is not catered for in the EE module list? Are new modules easily customisable?

By definition, any new add on (module, extension, plugin) is what it is, and may be customizable and maybe not. Each will provide a feature set that may or may not fit what you need. Same math. Choose wisely.

If so, would this then create security risks with EE?

Sorry, same thing. It may, it may not. Choose wisely.

I believe those security alerts that Nevin linked to apply to the core files, base install. Any modules/extensions you add are a different issue and add to vulnerabilities. EE has far more built in to the core than others (Joomla, Wordpress, etc) so you have less to worry about.

EE has far more built in to the core than others (Joomla, Wordpress, etc) so you have less to worry about.

One thing to do during the evaluation process is to list the features and benefits you think you may need (segregate initial needs and future fantasy needs, of course) and compare them to the basic core systems of the CMS apps under consideration.

I use from one to five non-default EE add ons on various sites; plugins, extensions, modules. Many sites do not require any non-EE add ons, while some have specific requirements.

...and let’s not forget as equally import is this community and its members with ‘getting & giving help when needed’ compared to J!,WP,Drupal and alike where answers take weeks.
It accounts for a lot of value!

...and let’s not forget as equally import is this community and its members with ‘getting & giving help when needed’ compared to J!,WP,Drupal and alike where answers take weeks. It accounts for a lot of value!

Exactly. And put another way, it becomes another in the line of items in the “price vs. cost” issue between Joomla, WP, and friends, and EE. Those products are free. Depending on your needs, they can quickly become expensive and outpace the overall cost (TCO?) of using EE.

In the end, EE users, for whatever their needs, are driving a Lexus, while no matter how much effort and cost and hacks go into the others, they’re still not much more than a Kia Rio with leather seats.

I second (or third) the “security” and “support” arguments made so well here. I used to love Drupal. I also used to consider Wordpress and Joomla the ideal ways to get a pretty site or blog up and running.

But if you’ve ever lived through any of these hellish experiences, you will appreciate EE:

1) Your client wants to change the look or scope of the site—and you just cannot make his round peg fit Joomla’s square hole. Been there.

2) Your client gets an outside security audit and your site flunks. You find yourself unable to explain and scouring developer forums for patches. Been there, screwed that up.

3) The wonderful plugin that looks like the answer to your prayers renders your entire site nonfunctional. You search desperately for answers—only to find that the developer got a “day job” years ago—and the entire user community is in a country you’ve never heard of speaking a language you cannot understand.

In this discussion, there is mention of having an EE “aha moment.” I call #3 my open source “WTF moment.” Been there, screwed that up. Royally.

All things considered, I’m much happier driving a Lexus.

But if you’ve ever lived through any of these hellish experiences, you will appreciate EE:

I’m sorry, but I just had to chuckle out loud over each of those points. Well done. Anyone old enough to remember Burma Shave signs along the highways (pre-interstate days). This sequence came to mind:

Sign #1: Been there.

Sign #2: Done that.

Sign #3: Didn’t like it.

Sign #4 : Don’t want it.

Sign #5: Get EE instead.

It’s better if you can get the sign messages to rhyme, but you get the idea.

LOL… been a Expression Engine user since 2006, as well as joomla (even before), and more recently cmsmadesimple, I remembered something that might be more advised for educational purposes, and that has everything you need… except the flexibility for “prutty” theeming.

Check outt” or mo Moodle… it has everything you need, it is free, developed FOR education and for teachers to use, mantain the content end promote it…, IT also has excelent admininstration tools, and adds to EE the modules for adding SCORM content, produced anywhere nowadays, queries, closed discussions, enlisting kids, and so.

I love EE, I hate the wait for 2.0 for so long because I know I will love it, and that alone has made me look into other options for “light/focused” webdevelopment.

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