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FoxEE (for FoxyCart integration) or TradingEye or something else for web standards savvy UK ecommerce?

January 27, 2009 5:53am

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  • #1 / Jan 27, 2009 5:53am

    Jonathan Schofield

    175 posts

    I’ve no experience of either as yet. Just wondered if anyone has any thoughts on either approach (or another one) that they’d like to share.

    As an EE user I’m drawn to FoxEE but FoxyCart looks a bit slight on UK oriented payment gateways.

    I’ve read great things about TradingEye—I think Andy Clarke of Stuff and Nonsense had a hand in it. It also has the advantage of compatibility with my prospect’s preferred new payment gateway, Secure Trading. Has anybody here used TradingEye?

  • #2 / Jan 27, 2009 1:09pm

    Stephen Slater

    366 posts

    When is TradingEye releasing V.6?  I remember reading through their forums about six months ago and they were touting the new version soon.

  • #3 / Jan 27, 2009 1:14pm

    Simon Cox

    405 posts

    I ended up using Roman Cart instead of FoxyCart because of the lack of UK payment Gateways - they have since added UK Paypal but my client needs Worldpay.

    Trading eye looks like a full CMS not just a cart. The advantage of just a cart option is that you can integrate it into any site design whereas the ‘out of the box shop’ normally restrict you ability to design or make it very difficult to edit the templates to get the site how you wish.

    For artscapeonline.com and santaballs.co.uk I implemented Roman cart directly into my EE templates - it was dead easy.

  • #4 / Jan 27, 2009 5:07pm

    Jonathan Schofield

    175 posts

    Thanks, Simon. I’ll have a look at Roman Cart.

  • #5 / Jan 27, 2009 5:53pm

    Simon Cox

    405 posts

    I would also suggest adding your voice to the UK users in Foxy Cart to try and get more UK gateways - they have a very neat system for voting on what to do next and which gateways people want.

    I see FoxyCart have posted an article today on all the various bits you need to stitch together for e-commerce. website, cart ,gateway, merchant-account, bank-account. Many people don’t realise that you need all these bits and the banks don’t make it easy to understand!

  • #6 / Jan 27, 2009 6:16pm

    Jonathan Schofield

    175 posts

    Thanks, Simon. Both very useful. I’ve added my voice to 3 gateways.

  • #7 / Jan 27, 2009 11:00pm

    Adrienne L. Travis

    213 posts

    I usually use Mal’s E-Commerce (http://www.mals-e.com) and it has a number of International gateways. There’s a free option and a for-pay option. It’s a lot like RomanCart, but i like it better (and i’ve been using it FOREVER).

  • #8 / Jan 28, 2009 2:14am

    foxycart

    10 posts

    Hi all. Fwiw, we’re right now in the process of adding Realex support, which will provide another option for UK users (in addition to PayPal WPP UK, PayPoint Gateway, and CyberSource). If you want a specific gateway we always appreciate a heads up (especially from the EE community, since EE sites tend to be really consistently beautiful) 😉

  • #9 / Jan 28, 2009 7:21am

    Jonathan Schofield

    175 posts

    Hi Foxycart,

    Thanks for that. My client is keen to use Secure Trading.

  • #10 / Jan 28, 2009 7:24am

    Jonathan Schofield

    175 posts

    Thanks Also, Adrienne. Mal’s looks really interesting too.

  • #11 / Feb 02, 2009 11:01am

    Jim Pannell

    187 posts

    Hey FoxyCart - what about Google Checkout? Do you support that?

  • #12 / Feb 04, 2009 2:05pm

    Jonathan Schofield

    175 posts

    For the record, I’m going to go with Magento for the site I have in mind. The key things that have swayed me are, in order of importance:

    1. Stock and inventory control built in
    2. Good choice of UK payment gateways
    3. OpenSource (free)
    4. The promise of EE integration real soon (see last comment)!

    Thanks to all those who have contributed here.

  • #13 / Mar 03, 2009 2:29pm

    Dom Stubbs

    156 posts

    Sorry for dragging this thread back up, but I’m in a similar situation. I was banking on using FoxyCart with EE but hadn’t realised that they have no support for debit cards. The payment gateways available are fine, but being a UK-based client it’s not going be acceptable to refuse debit cards. This is going to be a huge problem and I’m starting to think I will need to find an alternative. How have you (or anyone else?) found the Magento templating system? Having looked through the code that’s producing the default template my initial impressions are that it looks extremely awkward compared to the likes of EE and, since I’m on a fairly tight deadline, that’s the last thing I need.

    I’m surprised that there appear to be very few flexible, standards-based options out there. And slightly concerned that I might have to say goodbye to sleep for the next few weeks.

  • #14 / Mar 03, 2009 2:37pm

    Stephen Slater

    366 posts

    Having looked through the code that’s producing the default template my initial impressions are that it looks extremely awkward compared to the likes of EE and, since I’m on a fairly tight deadline, that’s the last thing I need.

    Very true.  Templating Magento is a whole different approach.

    I’m surprised that there appear to be very few flexible, standards-based options out there. And slightly concerned that I might have to say goodbye to sleep for the next few weeks.

    Join the crowd.  There are no options to ecommerce as EE is to content.  A quick way to use EE for everything other than the checkout process is to use CCP’s remote API option.  It allows standard forms, managed in EE, to submit orders to the cart.

  • #15 / Mar 03, 2009 3:06pm

    Dom Stubbs

    156 posts

    Thanks for the link Stephen, I will check that out. On a similar note, is anyone aware of any good ‘bolt on’ cart applications out there? Ultimately I want to use EE to manage products, unless there’s something fantastic out there that I’ve overlooked, but most applications do seem to try and do it all rather than focussing solely on the cart and payment elements.

    For the time being I’m just crossing everything and hoping that Foxycart will let me know that debit card support is coming soon, as nothing else seems to come close to doing what I want. Well, crossing everything and frantically clicking through every shopping cart sales site on the net, to be more accurate.

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