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Let's Kill IE6 in 2009

January 09, 2009 10:26am

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  • #1 / Jan 09, 2009 10:26am

    Marcus Neto

    1005 posts

    I am making a step to not support IE6 as a standard browser in 2009. I think there is a large enough swell in the web community that killing IE6 could be a reality. As part of this move clients could pay additional money for the support of IE6 but in general I would love to just ignore this mess of a browser. Even doing simple stuff requires hacks and work arounds that frankly I am just tired of having to do…

    What say you?

    M.

  • #2 / Jan 09, 2009 10:28am

    Ingmar

    29245 posts

    Make it so. I know I have 😊

  • #3 / Jan 09, 2009 10:37am

    Mark Bowen

    12637 posts

    Me too - Engage!! 😊

    Already did it a while back. I have totally given in trying to support something which is just making us all work backwards. Totally ridiculous to keep on having to place hacks into sites just to get them to work properly. There are newer and definitely better browsers out now and clients who want to stick with old, buggy, less secure systems can do so if they want but I will not be supporting them.

    Best wishes,

    Mark

  • #4 / Jan 09, 2009 10:55am

    Arun S.

    792 posts

    Same here.  As of Jan. 1st, we’ve dropped IE6 from our standard supported browsers.

  • #5 / Jan 09, 2009 11:04am

    Marcus Neto

    1005 posts

    Just made the blog post and will be sending out the email newsletter later on today. Plus I have made the decision to not “host” any clients. Talk about a load off my shoulders. If I could bill 10% of what I do for people as part of support for hosting…

    The blog post here

    Feel free to use portions of the blog post if you are deciding to do the same thing… Let’s kill IE6!!!

    M.

  • #6 / Jan 09, 2009 12:49pm

    28Bytes

    192 posts

    I will drop IE6 when IE8 comes out of beta. So you can then currently support all current browsers and the previous version. Until then IE6 is on the testing block, but can’t wait to kill it off.

  • #7 / Jan 09, 2009 12:57pm

    Jamie Poitra

    409 posts

    Still not a choice for some of us.  But I whole heartedly support you in your endeavors.  😊

    We actually had a partner organization, one you would think would be on top of things, tell us that they still had to use IE6 (and nothing else) on all of their office machines.  This was a larger organization and it is sadly not unusual to hear those sorts of things when dealing with organizations of that size.

    Jamie

  • #8 / Jan 09, 2009 1:38pm

    ak4mc

    429 posts

    I heard somewhere Microsoft was going to change the name of the browser because some people were referring to it by its initials with a certain inflection meant to express their anguish over having to use it. The word was they were going to give it a name less prone to such ridicule. Something like “Wilhelm Scream.”

    They could have been pulling my leg.  😉

  • #9 / Jan 09, 2009 3:02pm

    CI Lee

    343 posts

    I could see a naming convention change that moves from a numerical sequence to actual names in the future.
    Being based on a number does invoke a bad taste in some people mouths that may or may not have merit in the current browser. IE8 may be paying for IE6’s shortcomings due to their close proximity in name.

  • #10 / Jan 09, 2009 4:54pm

    Marcus Neto

    1005 posts

    I just dont understand corporations that continue to support applications that were built to IE6 specifications. I mean how difficult could it be for them to bring that up to a point where it could run in any browser? We do it everyday right? Seems like if it was a mission critical app I would not want it tied to a platform that was preparing to die a slow painful death. I have heard that kind of talk before but it just seems to me that someone has not thought of the consequences of staying on IE6. Does corporate security have no bearing? I mean close to 5 years ago I was working for the US Dept of State as an IT Consultant and I seem to remember that even they were preparing to leave IE6 in the dust when IE7 was released. They were even using and Independent team to verify all of their web applications were up to date with Web Standards and all.. I mean if the US Government (arguably a slow moving beast of an organization) can do it can’t corporate America?

    M.
    Die IE6 Die!  😉

  • #11 / Jan 09, 2009 7:15pm

    Mark Bowen

    12637 posts

    I see it all in a very simplified way. Let’s say you had a problem with your car and you could get it fixed for free but you decide not to and stick some tape over the problem. Really doesn’t make a lot of sense anymore if you ask me.

    Go away already IE!!

    Oops did I miss a number off the end there? 😉

  • #12 / Jan 09, 2009 7:31pm

    noregt

    360 posts

    <!--[if lte IE 6]>
            Mom, is it you again? I told you to buy a new PC!!!
    <![endif]-->

    Or:

    <!--[if lte IE 6]>
            Ugly and simplified version for simple souls
    <![endif]-->

    Very nerdy humour by the way 😉

  • #13 / Jan 09, 2009 7:33pm

    Marcus Neto

    1005 posts

    Yeah I am thinking that to support IE6 I will put in the Eric Meyer’s Reset CSS. At least then they will be able to see the text but it will not be pretty…

  • #14 / Jan 09, 2009 7:59pm

    Mark Bowen

    12637 posts

    There’s also a javascript somewhere on the net, don’t have the link at the moment but a quick Google should find it and it makes all the colours of the text on the page very very very very nasty!

    Sounds like that could be a good one to inflict 😉

  • #15 / Jan 10, 2009 3:41am

    Ditchmonkey

    53 posts

    Regarding the hosting: I am wondering if you were ever selling your hosting services for what they were worth? Having a client on a managed hosting plan supported by the developer of the site is a value-added service. Not a 12.95 per month hosting account. If you were charging less than 50 per month at a minimum, you were devaluing your services. If you weren’t doing this, did you still find that it was not a worthwhile offering?

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