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Hey yeah to save some other people some hair from all the head scratching, and to help figure out alpha and omega… this video tutorial on 960 is just the ticket:
http://nettuts.com/videos/screencasts/a-detailed-look-at-the-960-css-framework/

Well I gave 960.gs a go after viewing the video tutorial linked above. Great tutorial, but when I came to creating the layout, I just got totally confused with what I was doing and ended up with a far from ideal layout. I have since put this down to misunderstanding of the fundamentals of the framework, and its caveats - will probably try again in the future though.

What about this? Anyone out there, have you used?

Cheers:
- Tuittu

Looks good. Will wait for Mac version.

After dinking around too much with CSS frameworks I’ve come to the conclusion that such efforts to create structure are more for those with OCD (actually, it’s “CDO—alphabetized, the way it should be) than for pragmatists who understand that exceptions often rule the day.

What about this? Anyone out there, have you used?

Cheers:
- Tuittu

Not used it but it looks to work quite a lot of the same as Coda does. Looks quite nice though.

The only thing I’m wondering is who exactly voiced the demo movie as I 100% guarantee (my day job is as a commercial producer) that the voice has been pitched down a bit 😉

Guess the person recording their voice may well be the developer of the program and doesn’t like hearing the sound of his own voice. I know I don’t like mine and it’s amazing what a little bit of a pitch change can achieve!! 😊

The only thing I’m wondering is who exactly voiced the demo movie as I 100% guarantee (my day job is as a commercial producer) that the voice has been pitched down a bit.

I have some experience in audio voice recording, too, and I totally agree with you. There’s some pitch down going on there; you can tell because the voice isn’t fully ‘natural’ and intonation and inflection appear ‘odd.’

Guess the person recording their voice may well be the developer of the program and doesn’t like hearing the sound of his own voice. I know I don’t like mine and it’s amazing what a little bit of a pitch change can achieve!!

One of the reasons we don’t like the sound of our own voice on a recording is because what we hear on the recording, though wholly accurate, sounds foreign. When we hear our own voice while speaking, the sound comes from both ear and jaw, which distorts the sound, making it different than what others hear. When we hear our recorded voice, we get the sound as others hear it, only through the ears—but it sounds much different to us.

One of the reasons we don’t like the sound of our own voice on a recording is because what we hear on the recording, though wholly accurate, sounds foreign. When we hear our own voice while speaking, the sound comes from both ear and jaw, which distorts the sound, making it different than what others hear. When we hear our recorded voice, we get the sound as others hear it, only through the ears—but it sounds much different to us.

Yep absolutely correct unless of course you are a voice-over and then they just love the sound of their own voices anyway!! 😉

Mark, what gear and software do you use to do voice recording?

Mark, what gear and software do you use to do voice recording?

At the moment I’m a Pro Tools man when at my day job (Commercial Producer) but I started out on some of the very first machines that were doing real audio such as the Atari and then moved on to the Mac many many years back now.

I go back to mono Ampex reel to reel audio recorders, before video recorders were common. I remember purchasing a few TASCAM multitrack recorders, a Fostex or two, to produce radio commercials and TV voice overs. I got into digital audio with eMagic’s Logic and ProTools at about the same time, but settled on Logic (it continues to improve while ProTools gets more expensive). It’s impressive the amount of capability in Garageband. I do an increasing amount of work in GB and SoundTrack Pro, too. The capabilities of even a modest Mac and FinalCut Studio are stunning these days. Amazing value, incredible quality.

I go back to mono Ampex reel to reel audio recorders, before video recorders were common. I remember purchasing a few TASCAM multitrack recorders, a Fostex or two

Ah yep I remember the Fostex machines. Actually I lie as I did start out in the non-digital realm many years ago and used to use a 16 track Fostex machine. We started out learning to splice tape and then we moved on to the 16 track recorded. I actually ended up mending those (a complete pain in the a**) when I got a job at the music college that I went to after being a student there.

I still think it’s a really great thing for people to learn analogue techniques first before venturing into the digital realm because if you understand what it is that you are recording more then this will ultimately help you out in the digital realm.

I got into digital audio with eMagic’s Logic and ProTools at about the same time, but settled on Logic (it continues to improve while ProTools gets more expensive).

Yep that’s why I let my boss pay for it 😉

It’s impressive the amount of capability in Garageband. I do an increasing amount of work in GB and SoundTrack Pro, too. The capabilities of even a modest Mac and FinalCut Studio are stunning these days. Amazing value, incredible quality.

At home we (my wife and I) have a studio set up as well with a Yamaha O3D hooked up through a sound card to a desktop macintosh and run Cubase Audio on it. Works really really well and I’ve had up to 400-500 tracks running at once on that baby!!!

Tape splicing. Brings back distant memories with a sharp razor blade, an editing block, and a grease pencil. Grab the tape reels and drag back and forth to find the right edit point. Whew. Nuts.

I think I prefer modern digital editing to the slicing of tape.

My sons do a lot of work in Garageband and Logic and they’re totally spoiled having no idea how editing and multitrack was done back “in the dark ages.” I run a couple of AKG microphones through a Mackie mixer. I do miss the instant playback/record of audio tape recorders, though. NO latency.

I like BluePrint and 960.gs, but they are restrictive that they only work with a fixed 950px/960px width.

I’ve just discovered a fluid version of the 960.gs. It can be found at http://www.designinfluences.com/fluid960gs/  I’m going to be trying to use it for an upcoming project. Looks pretty sweet!! 😊

I tried that skybound but it f’‘ed my keyborad. might be something that i did.  So i need to test it later again =) But seemed pretty nice. Well thats all folks =)

CHeers:
- Tuittu

I like BluePrint and 960.gs, but they are restrictive that they only work with a fixed 950px/960px width.

I’ve just discovered a fluid version of the 960.gs. It can be found at http://www.designinfluences.com/fluid960gs/  I’m going to be trying to use it for an upcoming project. Looks pretty sweet!! 😊

Thanks Sean, the templates at that link use Mootools, Mubs my buddy at mostInspired just posted his JQuery ported version of those templates, I think he’s planning to publicize them a bit more somewhere within his network of sites, but for now you can find the JQuery fluid 960.gs templates linked here.

I feel like adding the tax time saying… “I’ve got People”, I did nudge Mubs just a little on those via twitter 😊