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EE - Basic Tagging vs Solspace's 3 rd party Tagging module ?

April 28, 2008 3:33am

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  • #1 / Apr 28, 2008 3:33am

    Suri.CMS

    19 posts

    Hi All,
    1) Does EE has basic ‘Tagging’ as part of it’s core code or as a free module?

    2) If so, can you please elaborate what’s the exact difference between this Tagging module and Solspace’s 3 rd party Tagging module mentioned at:
    http://expressionengine.com/downloads/details/tag_module/

  • #2 / Apr 28, 2008 4:04am

    Ingmar

    29245 posts

    No, it does not. EE supports categories out of the box, but not tags in the way Solspace’s module does.

  • #3 / Apr 28, 2008 9:23am

    Suri.CMS

    19 posts

    EE supports categories out of the box, but not tags in the way Solspace’s module does.

    Thanks for the clarification.

    Using this Solspace’s Tagging module, can we associate tags to EE forum topics as well ???

  • #4 / Apr 28, 2008 9:55am

    John Fuller

    779 posts

    Suri, sorry but no.

    BTW, the difference between tagging and categories (in general) is that tagging is user generated while categories are restricted to site administrators.

  • #5 / Apr 28, 2008 10:11am

    Mark Bowen

    12637 posts

    Sorry John - had to pop in on this one. The Tag Module can be used to also only allow site administrators to add tags. There is indeed a function to allow a form where users can tag items (entries) but this doesn’t have to be used. I am currently using the Tag Module on a site that I am creating and I am only using the administrator part of it. There won’t be any users submitting tags anywhere.

    Just thought that might need a little clarification although yes the Tag Module can be used to provide that feature as well using the Tag Entry Form although I have never used that as I feel that the system really is much more powerful if you don’t use this but that’s just my take on it and probably due to the way I am setting up my site at the moment.

    Best wishes,

    Mark

  • #6 / Apr 28, 2008 10:28am

    John Fuller

    779 posts

    Key word being “in general.”  The hype with tagging on the web (come and gone) has always been about users organizing your content for you.  You could use tags as “admin only” but that seems a bit redundant to me when categories can be used for the same thing.  You could use tags in place of categories but that is still categories to me and I would rather use the native features for cateogorizing.  Perhaps this is just all semantics though.

  • #7 / Apr 28, 2008 10:32am

    Mark Bowen

    12637 posts

    Hi John,

    Oops sorry didn’t see the (in general) previously. Yes you are absolutely right that users can organise content for you but on the site I am creating I definitely don’t want this happening and what I am doing could not be done with categories so the tag module in admin mode only is definitely a very very powerful tool but as they say it depends really on what your end goals are. 😉

    Best wishes,

    Mark

  • #8 / Apr 28, 2008 5:42pm

    Suri.CMS

    19 posts

    The Tag Module can be used to also only allow site administrators to add tags. There is indeed a function to allow a form where users can tag items (entries) but this doesn’t have to be used.

    Hi Mark,
    Thank You for the detailed clarification. I was just about to ask the same question 😊

    For my site, I don’t want users to assign tags. I want only the admin to do that. Happy to know it’s possible with this Tagging module 😊

  • #9 / Apr 28, 2008 6:10pm

    Mark Bowen

    12637 posts

    No problem 😉 Yep thought it might be good to let people know that you don’t have to use it like all the other social apps out there and in my case and my mind I think this is what gives it a lot more power. With the site I am creating, categories wouldn’t even be able to come close to what I am able to do with the Tag module.

    Best wishes,

    Mark

  • #10 / Apr 28, 2008 6:12pm

    John Fuller

    779 posts

    Such as… ?

  • #11 / Apr 28, 2008 6:23pm

    Lisa Wess

    20502 posts

    John and Mark -  Let’s leave this for answering Suri’s questions.  You can begin a discussion on the uses of personal tagging vs. user-contributed tagging in the lounge, or in email/private messages, if you wish to continue.

    Suri - the Tag Module can do both types of tagging, so you should be good to go. Do you have any other questions?

  • #12 / Apr 28, 2008 6:30pm

    Suri.CMS

    19 posts

    Do you have any other questions?

    Nope ! This particular thread (question) is clarified…

  • #13 / Apr 28, 2008 6:31pm

    Mark Bowen

    12637 posts

    John and Mark -  Let’s leave this for answering Suri’s questions.

    That’s absolutely fine with me. I was just answering Suri’s last post. 😉

    Best wishes,

    Mark

  • #14 / Apr 28, 2008 6:49pm

    John Fuller

    779 posts

    Just thought Suri might want to know the difference between tagging with the Solspace module and categories in ExpressionEngine.  Categories can be used for tagging and it would be your only choice (without custom coding) if not for the tag module.  I have used the tag module but only for very basic tagging.  In this case both tags and categories were used.  I was thinking perhaps Mark might enlighten us to the more advanced features he has used to get power out of tags which categories have not been able to provide.  I’m sure Suri wouldn’t mind.  Right?  Suri?  ❓

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