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October 27, 2011 12:57pm

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  • #1 / Oct 27, 2011 12:57pm

    macuser

    9 posts

    How many hours do you need to master the basic?

    How long does it take to build a small business site?

    How long does it take to learn to make basic addons?

    Is it faster than wprdpress? If so why?

    Can EE handel sites with 10 000 pages?

    // Regards
    Johan

  • #2 / Oct 27, 2011 4:07pm

    Jamie Poitra

    409 posts

    I don’t know how anyone is supposed to answer most of these questions without more information.

    How quickly do you usually learn things?

    How extensive is the small business site?  What features would it need?  What does the design look like?

    How long does it typically take you to learn how to program within a CMS framework?  Do you know PHP and MySQL?  What about Javascript?

    By faster than WordPress what do you mean?  Faster at building the page for visitors?  Faster at development?  Faster how?

    Yes, EE can handle sites with 10,000 pages.  The site I run has well over 80,000 pages (thats just roughly the number of articles in it).

    Jamie

  • #3 / Oct 27, 2011 9:14pm

    Boyink!

    5011 posts

    How good/smart are you? 😉

  • #4 / Oct 28, 2011 2:21am

    macuser

    9 posts

    Hello Jamie and Boyink.

    I don’t know how anyone is supposed to answer most of these questions without more information.
    How quickly do you usually learn things?

    Well Im a quick study, I love reading computer books. Ive also been studing at the webdeveloper program for 2 year at Kalmar university in sweden. And that went really well 😊

    How extensive is the small business site?  What features would it need?  What does the design look like?
    I meant just in general, like the small business site in the ExpressionEgine 2 book.

    How long does it typically take you to learn how to program within a CMS framework?  Do you know PHP and MySQL?  What about Javascript?

    I know PHP, MYSQL, Javascript, css. I started just doing webdesign as a teenager 1995 but about 7 years ago I began learning about php.

    I have worked for a company that builds small business sites in Wordpress, it took me about a week per site from ground up. That was about the same pace as the other web developer there who was considered to be good at what he was doing.

    By faster than WordPress what do you mean?  Faster at building the page for visitors?  Faster at development?  Faster how?

    Faster development.

    Yes, EE can handle sites with 10,000 pages.  The site I run has well over 80,000 pages (thats just roughly the number of articles in it).

    That’s grate!

    All i know is that i have been banging my head against the wall with EPiServer ASP.NET C# MSSQL (I hate compiling), and wondering why it had to be so unnecessary complicated/tedious to do simple stuff! Also the windows IIS environment is not the best out there. I think EPiServer was built for letting consultants thrive and that why its so closed and frankly bad.

    I love wordpress for being grate:), but I think it sometimes is hard work to make a blog platform into a CMS that’s why was thrilled when i discovered Expression Engine.

    I’m going to do my first project in EE this winter for a friend (photo service).  I even think that Ive convinced the company (a municipality, a small city) I work for to have a pilot test this spring. For that I’m going to build a E-service a photo service (old photos of buildings and city ​​residents), and a online brochure for the Municipality Comprehensive plan 2012.

    The plan is to migrate the website from EPiServer to EE in the future, in about 2 years I hope.

    How good/smart are you?
    I’m not in Mensa yet 😉

  • #5 / Oct 30, 2011 3:53am

    macuser

    9 posts

    But do you think it will be faster to build sites than in wordpress? And better page controlls for editors? So they need less support?

  • #6 / Oct 30, 2011 8:24am

    Rob Allen

    3118 posts

    “faster development” is really subjective depending what you’re trying to do - EE and Wordpress are two totally different animals 😊

    As you say, Wordpress is a blogging platform, and most people here would recognise that it’s good at being one, but when you start trying to bend it into a CMS you begin to fight it. On the other hand with EE you start with a blank sheet so you can build your site however you wish, whether it’s a simple blog or fully featured social portal - EE doesn’t assume you want to do something in a certain way.

    As far as how long it takes to develop a site, a typical small business site with catalogue, info pages, contact forms and all the trimmings would probably take me 2-3 days to build up in EE - remembering I’m already well versed in it! If it’s your first EE site there’s a learning curve, but once you’ve grasped all the basics manipulating EE tags and templates is a whole lot easier than writing PHP like you have to do in Wordpress. In fact you don’t need to know any PHP to build very comprehensive sites with EE.

    Does that help?

     

     

  • #7 / Oct 31, 2011 2:37am

    macuser

    9 posts

    Yes it does thank you. I love php so i guess i need to get my hands dirty with addon development.
    And I think I get to a point when I have a special need so i really need to get in on that to.

    Today I develop for a site with lots of pagetypes and lots of content Im going to have think of away to migrate all that data and convert it to the right pagetype. I think Im going to reduce the amount to a third. Some of them is almost identical. Im currently using episerver.

    Regards
    Johan

  • #8 / Nov 01, 2011 1:44am

    macuser

    9 posts

    Sorry?

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