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I’d like to stick a thermometer in the community and see how everybody feels about this.  I’ll refrain from my personal feelings for the moment and won’t even vote.

Has Reactor met your expectations of the “community takeover”?

[EDIT] - I have to vote to see the results. I’ll stick my vote in the middle although that doesn’t actually reflect my opinion.

I’ve voted with Yes, although I don’t use Reactor.

The community approach with the switch to Mercurial opened a whole new world to me. I used to work with svn so hg (with MacHg) really changed my way of working.
I really like the approach, but I have a hard time to get the social approach, I know only to work on my own, I managed to get one issue integrate, but I have yet to discover this proposal board, I did not find it compelling. I do not understand how the Reactor people ‘tick’, where they’re up to, so I’ll wait and see.

I tested Reactor but I finally decided to go the Core route. I am a sole developer with 20 projects online, I depend on a super stable, slowly moving distribution.

Some more personal notes in general :

What I see is that the code get’s more and more complex, (like with most projects) which I really dislike.

CI was once a barebones framework who would shoulder the nasty parts of PHP like email and let the rest up to me. More important, CI was always very straight forward due to it’s simplicity. I loved that. Now It’s getting more and more complex with in parts questionable implementations (packages) or (to me) meaningless functionality (what is a jQuery library supposed to be good for ?). The pure quantity of documentation makes it a lot harder to keep the big view.

I think the core of CI needs a rewrite, a new concept, a restart from zero cleaning up of all the patches since early 1.x (ex: the loading routines), reducing the code, not adding !! A big cleanup, opening the doors for HMVC, REST, sparks and optimization with a modular (cascading ?), easily distributable file structure via hg.

To me the future is in small, lean code, to me the server is the enabler of what I can do on the client side and not a goal in itself.

I want to thank the maintainers of Reactor and the Ellis team, I wish I’d contribute more, for the moment I’am still stuck with restructuring my whole workflow.

Ok - so seriously… where is the community at?  Has everybody already jumped ship somewhere else?

Per the vote, it looks like it would be a yes. I also voted yes, but wanted to also throw in why I did so.

The one and only reason I voted yes is that it has moved the development forward at a bit more of a rapid pace then what was in the past. HOWEVER, as everyone can see in the BitBucket repo, the last commit was 26 DAYS ago…no typo there. There are thirteen pull requests just waiting for responses…just sitting there!

It would be of my opinion then, that this has started to make it look like, “let’s make it look like we’re letting the community chip in, then just let it sit there with all of their ideas”. I know that’s not really the case, and I’m hoping that this:

http://twitter.com/#!/cicon2011/status/91928697187209216

is the reason for the lack of updates lately in Reactor and the quietness of everything CodeIgniter…but only time shall tell on that end.

Because of this lack of updates though, I’m been looking at other frameworks such as Fuel and Laravel, though I have no intention of leaving the CodeIgniter that I’ve come to know and love.  😊

Just my $0.02. No refunds and/or exchanges. Thanks!

Per the vote, it looks like it would be a yes. I also voted yes, but wanted to also throw in why I did so.

The one and only reason I voted yes is that it has moved the development forward at a bit more of a rapid pace then what was in the past. HOWEVER, as everyone can see in the BitBucket repo, the last commit was 26 DAYS ago…no typo there. There are thirteen pull requests just waiting for responses…just sitting there!

It would be of my opinion then, that this has started to make it look like, “let’s make it look like we’re letting the community chip in, then just let it sit there with all of their ideas”. I know that’s not really the case, and I’m hoping that this:

http://twitter.com/#!/cicon2011/status/91928697187209216

is the reason for the lack of updates lately in Reactor and the quietness of everything CodeIgniter…but only time shall tell on that end.

Because of this lack of updates though, I’m been looking at other frameworks such as Fuel and Laravel, though I have no intention of leaving the CodeIgniter that I’ve come to know and love.  😊

Just my $0.02. No refunds and/or exchanges. Thanks!

I’m pretty sure you reached into my mind & pulled out my exact thoughts.

Hoping once CICON 2011 is over, development will pick back up. I know ExpressionEngine uses CI, so I’m assuming it won’t be abandoned.

You know what they say about great minds…  😊

Just wish I could go to CICON just to hear it in person, but will dutifully wait and read Twitter…oh joy :-(

So we have 21 votes so far… you’ve got to be kidding me.  WHERE IS THE COMMUNITY ON THIS???

Probably living their lives, working their jobs, etc.

So we have 21 votes so far… you’ve got to be kidding me.  WHERE IS THE COMMUNITY ON THIS???

Im sorry to say but the community isnt very active, and is even less in the lounge

Probably living their lives, working their jobs, etc.

You come nowhere close to seeing the point I’m trying to make here, and you are not my intended audience.

My point here is that ever since the Reactor project reared its ugly head, the community has just about died.  This used to be a vibrant, active community full of life - but it is no longer.  My point is Reactor has done more harm than good to the people that helped make this community.  Am I wrong?  What benefit has Reactor provided for the community?

Probably living their lives, working their jobs, etc.

You come nowhere close to seeing the point I’m trying to make here, and you are not my intended audience.

My point here is that ever since the Reactor project reared its ugly head, the community has just about died.  This used to be a vibrant, active community full of life - but it is no longer.  My point is Reactor has done more harm than good to the people that helped make this community.  Am I wrong?  What benefit has Reactor provided for the community?

You asked where the community was. I gave an answer. If you don’t like the answer, that isn’t my problem.

Rather than rant on a forum, why don’t you try to contact the actual core team to see what’s going on?

Who is your intended audience, if… the.. COMMUNITY isn’t?

What actual HARM has reactor done? At this point, I’m not disagreeing with you, but I am curious how it’s actually done more harm than good?

You are not my intended audience in the sense that you show a join date of April, 2011.

I’m still here…  😊

I don’t post very much, mind you, but I am around. I’m certain there are others as well, maybe they just don’t see this thread. I’m not sure, I can’t answer for them.

In my case, I’m just super busy with my “9-5” and side work to participate on the forums and/or contribute code to Reactor. I still think the quietness has a lot to do with what is going to be announced at CICON, but I’m not in the know…

I still think the quietness has a lot to do with what is going to be announced at CICON, but I’m not in the know…

That’s the only thing I can think of. If things don’t pick up after CICON, I may be moving to Yii instead. :(

And oh ok… so I joined the forums a few months ago, so I don’t matter. Cool 😊.

If CICON had *anything* to do with it, we’d be seeing a pick-up in activity, not a dismal retraction.

All Reactor has done so far is given those who whined about it the illusion of control so they’d shut up.  I don’t see the point, and I don’t see how it’s resolved any of the “problems” in which it was spawned from.

How is the death of the community NOT irrefutable evidence of the harm done by Reactor?