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Does anyone think that Google Trends holds much water? I’m surrounded by CakePHP freaks, and must admit to being tempted once or twice by the dark side, looking at Google Trends however, there isn’t any reason to worry about CI’s status… plus CI does what I want, with style and panache.

Example:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=cake+php,+codeigniter&ctab=0&geo=all&date=2007&sort=0

I was suprised by those stats and I know why now, try cakephp (one word)

http://www.google.com/trends?q=cakephp,+codeigniter&ctab=0&geo=all&date=2007&sort=0

I still love my CI though 😊

Ahah 😛

I’ve heard that Cake is not as flexible with models as CI? anyway we don’t need yet another Cake CI debate.

What I do find though, is that everyone seems to have heard of Cake but not so many have heard of CI, is it because Cake have a huge team of marketing bods to push it to the masses? I keep finding myself explaining CI to people by comparing it to Cake, then I get an ‘oh right’.

I think CI needs promoting more, my two-penneth.

I like thin.  Even thinner is the Zend Framework.  If I were to go with anything other than CI (but sticking with PHP) then I would go the way of Zend.

One thing that has certainly helped Cake is the large community resources they have available.

But not to worry, there’s a few of us already sorting this out for CI - see this thread.

Good to see that Lone, I’m staying right here, especially for my next project, which I thought of last night after a pint, and refined over a large black coffee in McDonalds carpark this lunchtime.

(Note - I’m not really a beer swilling fast-food junkie I might add, the chain of events is purely coincidental…)

The folks at Ellis labs don’t really do anything to CI other than make it ( it seems that way to me, at least). There isn’t an officially supported IRC channel, no podcasts, no newsletter, no advertising, a small forum, no official “extensions” site, very outdated-very basic tutorial videos….

i love the framework though…

There isn’t an officially supported IRC channel, no podcasts, no newsletter, no advertising, a small forum, no official “extensions” site, very outdated-very basic tutorial videos….

Well when you put it like that 😊

It feels like Ellis Labs don’t care too much whether CI lives or dies, as theres nothing really riding on it, but then weird things happen like a new version getting released, which make me wonder further.

I’m sure there have been previous posts about a roadmap, or lack of. I still love CI too though.

There isn’t an officially supported IRC channel, no podcasts, no newsletter, no advertising, a small forum, no official “extensions” site, very outdated-very basic tutorial videos….

Well when you put it like that 😊

It feels like Ellis Labs don’t care too much whether CI lives or dies, as theres nothing really riding on it, but then weird things happen like a new version getting released, which make me wonder further.

I’m sure there have been previous posts about a roadmap, or lack of. I still love CI too though.

I disagree.  The way this community has grown, I feel that Ellislab has done the right stuff to make CI successful. 

Does CakePHP pay their developers to work on the framework?  Ellislab puts paid resources on CI, you can’t get much more committed than that.

The next version of EE is undoubtedly going to benefit from lessons learned in CI.  The effort will probably be valuable for EE.

If you look at EE, there is not much difference between the two communities.  All the things you mention do not really exist for the EE side of things either.  In fact, do you really need these things?  One thing I have always liked about the EE community is that there are a lot of workers and not a lot of idle chatter.  It is a working community. 

A for profit business is much different than a purely open source effort.  Ellislab has to watch what they talk about.  They have to ensure that resources are being used efficiently.  They have to run a business.

Do you really need a newsletter to know the state of CI?  Just checkout the latest code from SVN and read the log.  IRC?  Great, like I need another time sink in my life.  😉