Here’s a question. If you have a client that wants to offer rudimentary journaling to their users, and you write that functionality in CodeIgniter, would it still be against the EE terms of use to use EE for the CMS of the site?
I see no reason why it would be. You build something in CI, it is still built in CI, which is Open Source. Even if you use EE in tandem with it, there is nothing in the EE license to prevent you from using another application with EE or to expand EE using another application.
Awesome. That seemed to be the way it had to go, but I always try to get confirmation before I start running off on a tangent.
Can you tell us whether the EE2 template parser will be extracted into a CI library? Having the same template capabilities across both platforms would be ace for us devs that want to produce a product that works stand-alone and with EE2, and I’m sure there are plenty of CI-only guys who would like a better template parser too.
Thanks for the post, and keep up the great work. EE2 looks awesome so far.
Can you tell us whether the EE2 template parser will be extracted into a CI library? Having the same template capabilities across both platforms would be ace for us devs that want to produce a product that works stand-alone and with EE2, and I’m sure there are plenty of CI-only guys who would like a better template parser too.
Ditto that. I’d assume/hope that the parser is a library that will be accessible from within any controller.
@analog, What the heck are you talking about? Nothing EllisLab does is “Mac Only”. The videos are QuickTime, but that is a cross platform technology, except for Linux. Not trying to hate, just wondering what, about any of this, made you think you have to have a Mac. Although you should because they are awesome and can run any OS, either natively or in a VM… I’m just saying…
More to the point, I never actually thought that I would see one of my feature requests answered! An AJAX module, sortof, with the CI JQuery wrap up.
@analog, What the heck are you talking about? Nothing EllisLab does is “Mac Only”. The videos are QuickTime, but that is a cross platform technology, except for Linux. Not trying to hate, just wondering what, about any of this, made you think you have to have a Mac. Although you should because they are awesome and can run any OS, either natively or in a VM… I’m just saying…
I believe he was referring to the usage of ScreenFlow in creating the EE2 screencast.
I tried ScreenFlow and didn’t like it. It captures the entire screen only, there is no pause facility and conversion rates are slow.
There was no demo version so I had to acquire it for testing another way… I’ll stick to iShowU. Mousepose on the other hand is fantastic and I snapped that up double quick time.
By the way, Camtasia will do the trick for Windows users.
The thing that has kept me away from EE is simply price, by the time you consider the cost for say 20 websites, its cheaper to develop your own version, is this something that will change in 2.0 ? as i understand the current EE is not developed on CI if i remember what i’ve read…
From what I recall, CI came out of Rick’s development of EE, kind of a things learned type of thing. I believe Les posted that the price of EE-2.0 has yet to be determined but there could be a slight increase.
The thing that has kept me away from EE is simply price, by the time you consider the cost for say 20 websites, its cheaper to develop your own version, is this something that will change in 2.0 ? as i understand the current EE is not developed on CI if i remember what i’ve read…
If your clients can’t afford $250 for a CMS then you have the wrong clients.
Plus the fact you have to support your product, expand on it and document it. Oh and teach someone else how it works if you expand. It will cost you more in the long run.
The thing that has kept me away from EE is simply price, by the time you consider the cost for say 20 websites, its cheaper to develop your own version, is this something that will change in 2.0 ? as i understand the current EE is not developed on CI if i remember what i’ve read…
If your clients can’t afford $250 for a CMS then you have the wrong clients.
Plus the fact you have to support your product, expand on it and document it. Oh and teach someone else how it works if you expand. It will cost you more in the long run.
I agree with this completely. EE is a bargain! Also, EllisLab does provides a discount on more than once license.
If it seems expensive, then you’re probably not taking full advantage of the tool or understanding the amount of development effort it takes to create such a tool.
The thing that has kept me away from EE is simply price, by the time you consider the cost for say 20 websites, its cheaper to develop your own version, is this something that will change in 2.0 ? as i understand the current EE is not developed on CI if i remember what i’ve read…
So you’re saying you can develop a CMS with similar features to EE, document it, and support it for $5K?
I’ve never understood the pricing argument when it comes to EE. $250 is a drop in the bucket compared to the integration and design costs for a custom site running on EE, and if you wrap it into the project costs so the client pays, IMHO it can’t be beat.
As a one-man shop, I’ve also appreciated (and sold clients on) the fact that if for whatever reason I go out of business or get hit by a bus they are left with a tool that other professionals can pick up and work with vs. a custom product.
I have no quibbles over cost as such, the minimum cost of a project with us is £2,000 and max so far has been £20,000, and we have many clients, my problem has been that i have used CMS after CMS and they are never simple, so we use our own, i haven’t been able to fully test EE and im more impressed with 2.0 than the current version which seems over complex… i love CI and i am looking forward to seeing the bridge between the two…
The thing that has kept me away from EE is simply price, by the time you consider the cost for say 20 websites, its cheaper to develop your own version, is this something that will change in 2.0 ? as i understand the current EE is not developed on CI if i remember what i’ve read…
You could develop an application on par with EE for under $5k? You should then.
I suppose i just have to try it out and see whats what, i’m not saying i can create a product like EE, but the features that my clients use on the majority of sites, we have built from our 5 years of developing websites, so i’m looking for the HOOK here (i love CI, so i want to love EE) ... i’ve tried many systems, which are very complex looking for your average client who barely knows how to switch the computer on….perhaps i just need to buy a copy and see how customizable and easy it is to tie into a website…
I’m looking forward to the new version of EE which will allow me to leverage my favorite open source PHP framework, CI. Unfortunately I recently had to ditch an EE project I really wanted to build a custom app out of , because it was far less time consuming extending CI to a customized PHP application. Having the best of both worlds with EE now though, there is zero reason NOT to buy it!
