Efraín Bárcena - 08 August 2007 12:41 PM

I see your point and you are right, money is not a factor to them. But not because you make a lot money your not going to to watch your expenses, I know I would. They are not complaining about the price for the license, they know EE is worth it. It’s just the fact that they know the EE Core version exist (which is all they need) and its free. I’m sure they feel like they are paying $250 for the Core Version.

Oddly enough, this is a rather good argument for removing features from Core, and decreasing its capabilities.  If this thought were at all a common one, it would be a reasonable conclusion to make that we’ve been too generous with what we allow the free product to do.

Please do not cripple EE Core! This’s a great learning tool and solution for non-profit organizations.

Reading through the forums, it appears that new and small business with limited resources may be using WordPress as their first solution. Providing a “Basic Core” only helps if the license allows commercial use. Another solution may be for EllisLab to provide a WordPress migration to EE.

pamoral - 10 February 2008 06:20 PM

Please do not cripple EE Core! This’s a great learning tool and solution for non-profit organizations.

Some software people do offer a special pricing full their full version for non-profits .. and, for that matter, bono-fide educational users .. usually requiring specific documentation to prove it .. but, that could be an administrative nightmare!

I think a lot of the mindset can be traced back to people getting far too used to getting stuff for free. 5-10 years ago there were hardly any decent commercial scripts around as I remember (at least not well known ones), developers were out there giving their code away, Joe Public got used to it and continues to expect it.

However, put things into perspective and you do get what you pay for. While the ubiquotous(?) Wordpress is a good application in it’s own right if anything goes wrong with it it’s a case of having to sort it out yourself. That’s fine if you have a web designer you can call on, or know enough to be able to sort it yourself, but if not there isn’t really what I’d call professional support on hand - ok you have their forums and documentation but even they don’t absolutely guarantee a solution.

IMHO $250 for an EE licence is a bargain, you get a highly flexible CMS, *and* pro support + a highly knowledgeable community - a bit like having a warranty when buying a new car - it gives you peace of mind.

If you’re like me, and developing site for customers, I like to give them quality products to run their site with and I want professional support in case anything goes wrong. In my book I owe them that.

bluedreamer - 11 February 2008 05:30 PM

I think a lot of the mindset can be traced back to people getting far too used to getting stuff for free. 5-10 years ago there were hardly any decent commercial scripts around as I remember (at least not well known ones), developers were out there giving their code away, Joe Public got used to it and continues to expect it.

However, put things into perspective and you do get what you pay for. While the ubiquotous(?) Wordpress is a good application in it’s own right if anything goes wrong with it it’s a case of having to sort it out yourself. That’s fine if you have a web designer you can call on, or know enough to be able to sort it yourself, but if not there isn’t really what I’d call professional support on hand - ok you have their forums and documentation but even they don’t absolutely guarantee a solution.

IMHO $250 for an EE licence is a bargain, you get a highly flexible CMS, *and* pro support + a highly knowledgeable community - a bit like having a warranty when buying a new car - it gives you peace of mind.

If you’re like me, and developing site for customers, I like to give them quality products to run their site with and I want professional support in case anything goes wrong. In my book I owe them that.

Nice discussion - amen, bluedreamer. So very true with regards to “you get what you pay for”.

The way EllisLab have structured ALL of their products, it speaks of quality at a price that constantly amazes me. With EE Core, you still get all the support and that is worth paying for on it’s own. At the end of the day it comes down to desire, if 250 bucks is too much to spend on a quality product then you do start to wonder…