The Commerce module is finally finished being mapped out and I am positive not a single thing will change during the rest of development.  ::pause::  Okay, you can all stop laughing now.  Thanks. 

How many database tables does it take to create an ExpressionEngine Commerce module?  Well, currently it stands at the high and mighty number of twenty eight, which also just happens to be the day of my birth.  This month even.  I expect presents from all of you.  Or you can all chip in and buy me one of those slick MacBook Pro portables.  Call it an ‘Intel Powerbook’ though because, honestly, that name leaves something to be desired.  Perhaps that thing is relish.

continue..

Congrats! I’m very much looking forward to this.

Ok Paul,
if the module turns out as cool as you describe it, I am willing to donate a certain amount out of my own MacBookPro jar via PayPal as a thank you.

I can definitely donate some spare bobs via PayPal if you wanna setup a birthday fund for yourself

The guy in that article that you linked does not sound very intelligent. 

It is not persuasive to start an argument about PHP by starting off with an admission that you have never written a PHP application. 

He later talks about Rails (a framework) being competitive with PHP (a programming language.)

Exciting Dev Blog entry.

I’m wondering if you can answer one question about this: does the e-commerce module encompass the ability to charge for subscriptions? As opposed to selling products?

PHP is only as powerful, elegant and usable as the experience and knowledge contained within the programmer for that language and programming in general.

Well said.

The same is true of EE. The tools are there. It is up to the user to create what is worthy. Or not.

...there are 2.5 million PHP developers in the world, so obviously anyone can try their hand at it by simply finding example code on the web. With such a low entrance fee, it invariably will be used by people with little experience in programming and not much interest in creating an excellent program.  Who cares?

All of us should, and we need to show it. Also, we need to develop the online social skills to handle the disparity within that broad spectrum of (insert your noun here; users, applications, opinions...)

One of the benefits of open communication on the web (millions of sites, billions of blogs, gazillions of opinions and commentary) is that everyone has a voice. A drawback of that open opportunity, is that all voices are worth listening to, and yet we are required to trudge through many ill formed, incomplete opinions and commentary on a subject, to get to the truth and heart and substance of a matter.

That takes time and effort, and, for the less experienced, it’s easy to tire of the process, and get off at a station that’s convenient, rather than ride the train to the true destination.

As Paul and I have both learned, it’s easy to take a wrong turn in communication, even with the best of intentions.

From Man of Steel…

The guy in that article that you linked does not sound very intelligent.

It is not persuasive to start an argument about PHP by starting off with an admission that you have never written a PHP application.

He later talks about Rails (a framework) being competitive with PHP (a programming language.)

I tend to agree, and yet he may be quite intelligent, though not as articulate, and certainly not as knowledgeable as he should be to stake out such positions.

Kudos to Rick, Paul, and the “pM philosophy” of an open forum to enlighten, educate, learn, and to set matters straight.

vinnyio - 23 February 2006 10:23 AM

I can definitely donate some spare bobs via PayPal if you wanna setup a birthday fund for yourself

Hey… if you don’t donate those spare boobs, can I have them?  I want to mount them to my computer, it might help our relationship.

Gary Chapman - 25 February 2006 09:47 AM

I’m wondering if you can answer one question about this: does the e-commerce module encompass the ability to charge for subscriptions? As opposed to selling products?

Yes, through the ability to switch member groups upon a purchase.

OK Paul,

The website shootout is over. Time for you now to announce the Ecommerce module!

CK
www.envindia.com

You’re a wizard in PHP but I’m amazed by your ” connaissance ” in another language called French as ” la crème brûlée ” is my favourite desert and ” répertoire ” one of the nice words I like in my native language. I’m starving for that new module.

Hi Paul,

Quick question, how about recurring (Monthly, Bi-monthly, Etc…) subscriptions or is this a function of the billing co.?

Paul, I’m actually surprised that you use Huevos instead of just using an address bar plugin like Sogudi to search.  I hadn’t heard of it until now, though, so I went ahead and installed it.  I’m guessing that when you’re in BBEdit, it’s nice to use a hotkey to bring it up and not have to reach for the mouse until after the page has already loaded in the PHP docs.

Well, the whole point is that I do not have to be in Safari to use it.  Huevos does exactly what I need it to do, so there is no real reason to switch unless I discover myself wanting more.  I am a simple man….

Indeed.  Between the time of my post above and now, Huevos is already second nature, and saving me time.

Another EE user eagerly awaiting this module… And of course I have a couple of ?s. I am currently at work on a site that, at present (with a non EE backend), has a small ecommerce section made up of items sold ‘directly’ via PayPal and others available via Powell’s Books (like Amazon). I am currently transitioning that site to EE and evaluating whether to adapt one of the Amazon plugins to use with Powell’s (our preferred bookseller), switch to Amazon in order to use the plugin, roll our own ecommerce using standard weblogs & Paypal, wait for the eCommerce module, or???

Would the eCommerce module even help with managing our “inventory” of Powell’s/Amazon items (I’m assuming the module functions both as a product management module to organize/categorize your product descriptions/images and as a shopping cart/payment system)? Or would I be better off with a weblog/plugin solution for items I don’t need the shopping cart functionality for (for administration purposes and consistency I would prefer to just have one place to enter all items, whether we fulfill the orders ourselves or through an affiliate program). Will the license fee be in line with other add-on modules? I can wait for it to be released and pay for it if I can gain the advantage of managing everything we sell solely through the eCommerce module, but if there is some reason NOT to use it for items that don’t require the shopping cart, then I won’t bother to wait.

Thanks in advance for any answers. I just really don’t want to spend a bunch of time building a solution for our eCommerce needs with weblogs and PayPal if the new module is going to render that a wasted effort.

It would be premature to answer any of your questions until the module has reached its official public beta.  I suggest you design your site based on what is currently available to you with EE and your other services.

Thanks, Paul. Looking forward to the eventual release along with everyone else and appreciative of the suggestion to go ahead with a currently possible solution.

...just noticed I’ve graduated to ‘Junior Member’ status. Whoo hoo!