Safari Testing
Posted: 23 December 2005 09:14 PM   [ Ignore ]  
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If you don’t have Safari, but need to test for it, here’s da place to do it…
http://snugtech.com/en/safaritest/

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Posted: 24 December 2005 04:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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Wow thank you. I always needed such a thing!

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Posted: 29 December 2005 11:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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Safair is a challenge with EE

As aMac user I have tried posting throught the CP but the spell-checker regularly causes it to crash.

Looking for a more stable option these days.

Jules

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Posted: 29 December 2005 12:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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Really? What version of Safari? EE is developed on Macs and we test with it all the time. Have you posted a bug report on that?

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Posted: 29 December 2005 12:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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Hi Leslie - I hope you managed to enjoy your Seasonal break despite the obvious pressures?

In fairness I think Safari/202/416.13 is a challenge for most Mac users, certainly it can become unusable on my powerBook (taking resources to 100% quite regularly - discussed ad-infinitum on MacinTouch and other Forums). There is a suggestion this may be Java related and whilst I’ve no idea how the spellchecking functionality is implemented in EE if it uses Java then that’ll be the cause - and it"ll be well out of your hands. Of course Apple has not confirmed a Java error so I’m not pointing a finger at any particular element of EE as the cause.

I hope my post is clear that I’m looking for something more stable than current Safari (rather than current EE which I’m sure is fine.). Hopefully all this is addressed in X.4.4 (Keynote/Jan 10th?).

Until then I’m sticking to ecto!

Brgds/Jules

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Posted: 29 December 2005 12:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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I’ve never had any problems with Safari and EE; and I’ve used multiple versions of each. Maybe it’s some other issue causing Safari to be instable. Are you updated to the newest version of Safari for your system?

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Posted: 29 December 2005 12:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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No problems here with Safari either. It’s got to be something unique to your box I’d bet.
By the way, I’m pretty sure EE doesn’t use anything “Java”.

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Posted: 29 December 2005 01:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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My system is up to date and the box is new.

I am not alone….wink)

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Posted: 29 December 2005 01:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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Still Safari crashing is very different from resource spikes. Definitely, Safari seems to occasionally grab ton of memory. On my machine this typically happens after its been open for a few days straight, or if I’ve opened multiple tab sets, in different browser windows (i.e. Daily News, tabset 20 sites, in one window; then Daily Blogs, tabset 30 sites, in a second window, etc.). Whenever I perform tasks like that, it pretty much guarantees, that I’ll need to restart the machine to reclaim system memory; and speed up Safari’s responsiveness.

But other than that, Safari’s been pretty darn stable for me; and I use a number of plugins with it as well. I can’t live without Saft, and also use SafariStand, etc. Memory, was the big issue for my Powerbook with Tiger. I upgraded to 1.5GB RAM. Would have gone for a full 2GBs, if I could have afforded it (but I had just purchased a 100GB drive for the laptop, so couldn’t). I noticed that not just Safari, but other applications, including the OS seem to not release memory properly under Mac OS X 10.4.3. For example, once Activity monitor was reading that I was using 1.34GB RAM, and I went through the list of all processes and tallied up their usage, and it should have only been 734MB RAM used. But everything on my system was slowed down; Safari was closed; and Activity Monitor was adamant about what was being used.  A restart cleared it up. But it is irritating to have to restart at least once a week, when I’m use to going much longer.

Typically on clients machines. I’ve found if they’ve complained about Safari crashing, then often something in the Network Preferences, Fonts, or User Preferences has gone bad. Though, it can be a pain to track down, it’s been fixable 90% of the time. I have switched a couple users to FireFox, Netscape or some other browser, because the sites they deal with regularly don’t like Safari.

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Posted: 29 December 2005 01:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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this all sounds like a bunch of fun. Maybe its time to try out the Shiira Web Browser that our intrepid leader found a few days back.

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Posted: 29 December 2005 06:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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I am not alone

In a way you are…at least here in the Forums as it seems to not be a problem many of us are encountering…fortunately for us…unfortunate for you.
I do see some of the same behavior Alnisa describes though.

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Posted: 29 December 2005 08:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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Julianps - 29 December 2005 11:40 AM

Safair is a challenge with EE

As aMac user I have tried posting throught the CP but the spell-checker regularly causes it to crash.

Looking for a more stable option these days.

I use Safari regularly and have never had it crash while using EE. Never. What version of Mac OS X? What version of Safari? What version of EE?

I’ve also edited EE in Firefox, OmniWeb, Camino, and Opera. No problems. Firefox handles the HTML editing tags better, otherwise, they all work fine.

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Posted: 30 December 2005 02:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]  
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Cool; our very own Safari thread!

Like I said, these issues are very much a Safari issue not an EE issue. Of course it is (just) possible that when posting entries that have more lines than the input box provides for EE should not automatically grow grab-handles, or is that a browser issue as well? For my part I just say “okay” and work with it. But when the spellchecker brings down application more than once in a day (which sort of overcomes the resource-grabbing issue) I just move on and use a different browser.

As an old timer I remember Word4Windows was a right scallywag, regularly closing without handing back it’s memory; in the days of 64mb that was a “bad thing”. By the time I’m running that much diagnostic on OSX it iwill feel perverse not joining the other 95% and plan a migration Vista (well, that is until Softpress migrate Freeway…........).

But then I don’t get paid to repair people’s systems so my perspective is different.

Thanks all/Jules

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