deus62 - 06 July 2005 10:36 AM

EricV,

I don’t think the EE user base is one that comes from an e-commerce background. It’s not that I don’t think it’s an important module, but I think, considering the people who were here from the start of pMachine and stayed on for EE, that those people have a different priority list. On that list, the e-commerce module is certainly below the gallery and forum modules.

I too was a pMachine user first, so I’ve witnessed the evolution… and revolution when EE came out. Precisely because EE is much more then a weblog management system, it is a pity the e-commerce module isn’t there yet.
Rick knows (or he should not remember it) that I find EE a very powerful system, and my background is enterprise-level IT in that I write about that for a living. I’ve always written about EE that it was more than the average blog system.

If I read between the lines of your post, you’re telling me the opposite? That commercial organizations should not bother too much about EE as its priorities are basically blog-orientated?

PS: it’s ErikV with a “K”, not a “c”

I use EE for a blog...and for a zine...and for a commercial site. I would love to see the e-commerce module, and would understand if it were extra (like the forum module). The only concern I would have is that, in terms of developing a community site for a client, the cost of EE commercial would start to spiral out of control because of all the modules.

However, I’d definitely like to see an e-commerce module. Imagine online stores where you had one single login to shop, write reviews, check out client-access-only support documentation, participate in the client forums (if any)...users would love it. And if it makes life easier for the users (customers), the responsive site/shopkeeper would have a strong incentive to purchase the system. Especially one that’s so customizable.

(Apologies for the incoherence. I’m having still decaffeinated this morning, and I’m in the “peeling/molting” stage of my sunburn. Ow.)

Laughing Muse - 06 July 2005 11:07 AM

I use EE for a blog...and for a zine...and for a commercial site. I would love to see the e-commerce module, and would understand if it were extra (like the forum module). The only concern I would have is that, in terms of developing a community site for a client, the cost of EE commercial would start to spiral out of control because of all the modules.

However, I’d definitely like to see an e-commerce module. Imagine online stores where you had one single login to shop, write reviews, check out client-access-only support documentation, participate in the client forums (if any)...users would love it. And if it makes life easier for the users (customers), the responsive site/shopkeeper would have a strong incentive to purchase the system. Especially one that’s so customizable.

(Apologies for the incoherence. I’m having still decaffeinated this morning, and I’m in the “peeling/molting” stage of my sunburn. Ow.)

I couldn’t agree more, except that I use EE only for zines and that I don’t have clients to satisfy. I do try to sell some stuff on the sites, though. And yes, it would be great to have an integrated system, especially if the member base would be integrated with that module.

I’m calling it quits for today, folks. I’ve written enough for the day (CET, mind you).... CU all tomorrow.

This is mostly an issue of limited resources, folks.  EE only has so many developers and they can only code so fast (in addition to all the other things they have to devote time to).  We’d absolutely LOVE to be able to get all of the Modules that we’d like to eventually have out the door yesterday.  Unfortunately, that’s obviously not possible.  So, we have to compromise.  We have to decide what is going to give us the best “return on investment” (to steal one of those corporate/financial phrases).  What feature/module/whatever is going to be useful for the greatest number of people, help our business the most (whether it be sales from a for-pay Module, attracting new customers, enticing existing customers to renew, whatever), and generally have the greatest positive impact.

It’s not an easy thing to do.

An eCommerce type module is certainly a very desirable module for many people.  We’re definitely aware of that and have been for a long time.  However, a forum module was even more highly sought (as was the gallery before it) which is why those were done first.

just got back from a fishing vacation in Canada, and now i’m EE-excited.

Chris Curtis - 06 July 2005 11:56 AM

EE only has so many developers and they can only code so fast ...

See your point, Chris, but how about a middle of road solution in the meantime. Say integration of EE User base into an Open Source solution like Zen Cart for example so at least there’s a single log-in and maintenance of user base.

A roadmap would also be useful. I’m not an EE user yet ‘cos I haven’t seen yet how one can offer and maintain multilingual sites in a satisfactory manner. Didn’t see anything in the doc so far about this matter which concerns however quite a large proportion of the planet. Didn’t see any mention of it in the change log of version 1.3.
Will it be tackled in version 1.4? When? No clue.  A roadmap would definitely help.

Using the incredibly handy, built-in search might have turned up this thread, or perhaps this one, both with further links. Yes, it can be done.

Say integration of EE User base into an Open Source solution like Zen Cart for example so at least there’s a single log-in and maintenance of user base.

Usually easier said than done… Since an eCommerce module has been on the road map (in broad terms) for a long time, I’d prefer the gang not waste time on integration and just go for the full monte. Now that the Forum is out, the only two things I can recall from the original broad view are Community and eCommerce modules.

I’m not an EE user yet ‘cos I haven’t seen yet how one can offer and maintain multilingual sites in a satisfactory manner.

I think I was one of first to take on a bilingual site (spanish/english) with EE. I know there must be others out there, but I invite you to visit the one I built for my client. Its only bilingual, but the same theory would likely work with multilingual. Just take a little more brain power. ;~)

[url=http://www.enlaceintl.org]http://www.enlaceintl.org[/url]

There’s an English or Español link at the top of every page that will instantly switch all content between the to languages. Even the events in the events calendar change this way.

We chose to use both languages in the side navigation, but the top nav bar also changes at the click of a button.

I posted a little guide explaining how this works in EE here.

EE is way flexible, especially with the help of the pM staff and the volunteers, and the community here.

Some days I think I’m driving the support folks here nuts, but I get some great results for my clients, and the folks here make it possible. I couldn’t possibly figure out EE on my own, but I can with the folks here, and that’s why I keep buying up licenses and building with it.

You can do just about anything with EE, if you are willing to read the user guide (I really do read it Chris honest I do), and seek the guidance of the community.