Am I a moron, or is EE sort of disappointing? [WYSIWYG question]
Posted: 02 July 2008 11:33 AM   [ Ignore ]  
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Hi there folks.

My site, OfficeAutopilot.com, is an EE site. We chose EE without much research based on the recommendation of the guy who did our web programming + the thriving community here and overall ‘good vibe’ of the site.

Now that we’re up and launched (six months ago), I’m wondering if we made a mistake…

I guess I assumed that all content management systems are basically all about making it easy to create and edit the content of my site. But my experience so far is that I’ve basically had to learn HTML to do a blog post.

I know for all you codeheads out there that HTML is no big deal.  And there is a little rush that comes from successfully figuring out how to wrap text around a photo, I’ll admit…

But, dammit, I just wanna write my blog post.  And not worry about HTML tags.

Am I missing something, or is EE really missing a true WYSIWYG editor?  Can it be?

Please help.

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Posted: 02 July 2008 11:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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Hiya,

Hmm not too sure how your site is set up as I don’t obviously have any access to your admin panel but you can definitely make writing a blog post as easy as just typing in the text. The only place that you may need to use some HTML code is if you want to have certain styles within the text that you are typing. If you don’t need that then you should be able to just literally type the text in without the need for a WYSIWYG editor and get just what you want.

I personally never ever use WYSIWYG editors as they are more trouble than they’re worth in my eyes (so far that is) but I have no problems with entering text as I format it in the templates so that anyone can enter text for a blog post and get it looking how I want without them ever having to worry about it.

Did you set up the site yourself or did someone else do this for you?

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Mark

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Posted: 02 July 2008 11:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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Was done for me by an experienced EE dude.

Here’s my issues: in order to have my text look right, I have to put <p></p> tags around everything..

Plus, adding photos or anything else seems to require real coding.

Am I off?

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Posted: 02 July 2008 11:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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Frankly, I don’t think these are the only two options… I don’t think you are a moron, and I don’t find EE disappointing; that said, it does have a certain learning curve, and certainly takes some time to get used to and be able to use its full potential.

But my experience so far is that I’ve basically had to learn HTML to do a blog post.

That would really depend upon your setup. It is true, though, that EE 1.6 does not ship with a WYSIWYG editor out of the box. It is certainly possible to add one, though. There are plugins and instructions for TinyMCE and FCKEdit, and a recent extesnsion for MarkItUp, which is not a true WYSIWYG editor, but could nonetheless be quite helpful.

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Posted: 02 July 2008 11:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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landon_ray - 02 July 2008 11:42 AM

Here’s my issues: in order to have my text look right, I have to put <p></p> tags around everything..

Try using “Encoding: XHTML” for starters… Photos can be added easily with the file upload manager, too.

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Posted: 02 July 2008 11:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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landon_ray - 02 July 2008 11:42 AM

Was done for me by an experienced EE dude.

Here’s my issues: in order to have my text look right, I have to put <p></p> tags around everything..

Plus, adding photos or anything else seems to require real coding.

Am I off?

Hiya,

You say that you have to add in <p> tags everywhere? The way I do it is I have my field that I type the text in to set to Auto <br />. I then simply place this in the template :

<p>{my-custom-field}</p>

This then works fine for me for text and images and the like. All I have to do then is literally type in the text into the custom field and nothing else. Maybe give that a try on a new template that isn’t live and see if you like what it does wink

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Posted: 02 July 2008 12:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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Thanks for the quick responses and help.

“The way I do it is I have my field that I type the text in to set to Auto <br />. I then simply place this in the template :

<p>{my-custom-field}</p>”

I wish I understood this better.. do you mean to actually add that exactly?  What do you mean [my=custom-field]?

Sorry.. am not a tech dude.  Just want to make things easy…

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L

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Posted: 02 July 2008 12:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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I recommend talking to the developer that did your site, as they can certainly make it a whole lot easier on you.

Thank you.

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Posted: 02 July 2008 03:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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As Ingmar has mentioned it sounds like the guy who set it up with formatting turned off on the particular input fields.

Now he could have done this to have a very tight formatting control via the templates, or it may be a mistake.

You can alter the formatting and set XHTML formatting for example a “content body field” through the weblog administration > custom weblog fields.

As Lisa says - best speak to the developer and see the reasoning for the development methods. If you can establish them then I am sure someone in this community will / would be willing to assist you making alterations if required to the site.

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