2 of 2
2
Which WYSIWYG editor is the best choice for EE?
Posted: 22 May 2008 12:06 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]  
Research Assistant
Avatar
RankRankRank
Total Posts:  348
Joined  02-28-2008

None taken, always looking for a better editor solution.
Ibrowser took about 1 min to load (IE 7, FF2..14) folder with 40 or so images (800KB) and upon closing of the window it would reload into the same process for next insert. Quite annoying.
Text loading…with the link and technique above it uses image list loaded into forms drop-down and requests are made 1 image per selection (see img.). This, for some reason, works in a matter of a seconds. It could be my settings of Ibrowser plugin but it never really got faster…could be just me smile.
Thanks!

Image Attachments
TinyMCE.jpg
Click thumbnail to see full-size image
Profile
 
 
Posted: 22 May 2008 04:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]  
Research Assistant
Avatar
RankRankRank
Total Posts:  548
Joined  11-08-2004
Ingmar Greil - 21 May 2008 11:58 PM
JT Thompson - 21 May 2008 06:01 PM
That jQuery markitup is nice, but it’s not a WYSIWYG by any means.

One of its most compelling features, in my book.

errr, this is a thread requesting a WYSIWYG editor.

lebisol - 22 May 2008 12:06 AM

None taken, always looking for a better editor solution.
Ibrowser took about 1 min to load (IE 7, FF2..14) folder with 40 or so images (800KB) and upon closing of the window it would reload into the same process for next insert. Quite annoying.
Text loading…with the link and technique above it uses image list loaded into forms drop-down and requests are made 1 image per selection (see img.). This, for some reason, works in a matter of a seconds. It could be my settings of Ibrowser plugin but it never really got faster…could be just me smile.
Thanks!

That’s interesting. I’d like to know if my users are seeing those load times.

I just checked, the images directory I’m using has 180 images in it and it took about 15 seconds to load them all. Personally I don’t use the browse feature much, I use it to upload. But you raise some good points.

 Signature 

Visit my foster cat project

Profile
 
 
Posted: 22 May 2008 05:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]  
Moderator
Avatar
RankRankRankRankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  14038
Joined  05-15-2004
JT Thompson - 22 May 2008 04:35 AM
Ingmar Greil - 21 May 2008 11:58 PM
JT Thompson - 21 May 2008 06:01 PM
That jQuery markitup is nice, but it’s not a WYSIWYG by any means.

One of its most compelling features, in my book.

errr, this is a thread requesting a WYSIWYG editor.

Well, I mean it’s close enough for my users, really. You don’t have to remember the codes to use, because the editor inserts them for you, but the resulting code remains clean and usable. I for one like it.

 Signature 

Everything will be good in the end. If it’s not good, it’s not the end.

Profile
MSG
 
 
Posted: 22 May 2008 09:19 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]  
Lab Technician
Avatar
RankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  1580
Joined  03-26-2006

For the record, Markitup does have a little “preview” button, which is sort of a live preview that opens up directly below the field you’re editing.

Also, I’m pretty close to having a Markitup custom field extension made, with per-field settings. You can see screenshots starting at this post of this thread.

 Signature 

ryan masuga
—————
Masuga Design | Member, EE Pro Network
My EE Add-Ons | {devot:ee}
Twitter: masuga | masugadesign | devot_ee

Profile
 
 
Posted: 22 May 2008 10:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]  
Lab Assistant
Avatar
RankRank
Total Posts:  126
Joined  12-08-2007

I disagree with classifying markitup as a wysiwyg editor.  In fact, it is nothing of the sort. It just provides a more intuitive means for styling text content and perhaps easier image manipulation. That being said… this is a far cry from a Front Page or a Dreamweaver design view.

 Signature 

For a list of all the ways technology has failed to improve the quality of life, please press three.

Profile
 
 
Posted: 22 May 2008 10:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]  
Lab Technician
Avatar
RankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  1580
Joined  03-26-2006
Scruffy - 22 May 2008 10:09 AM
I disagree with classifying markitup as a wysiwyg editor.

Well, YEAH. Read the front page of markitup’s site:

markItUp! is not meant to be a “Full-Features-Out-of-the-Box”-editor. Instead it is a very lightweight, customizable and flexible engine made to meet the developer’s needs in their CMSes, blogs, forums or websites. markItUp! is not a WYSIWYG editor, and it never will be.

I was just pointing out that it at least has a preview. I’ll exit this thread now - good luck with your WYSIWYG’s, folks.

 Signature 

ryan masuga
—————
Masuga Design | Member, EE Pro Network
My EE Add-Ons | {devot:ee}
Twitter: masuga | masugadesign | devot_ee

Profile
 
 
Posted: 22 May 2008 12:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]  
Lab Assistant
Avatar
RankRank
Total Posts:  126
Joined  12-08-2007

Sorry if I ruffled any feathers. That was not my intention. I, too, do not want to see any bloated wysiwyg editor included standard with EE.  Maybe a very light one as a plugin.

 Signature 

For a list of all the ways technology has failed to improve the quality of life, please press three.

Profile
 
 
Posted: 22 May 2008 01:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]  
Research Assistant
Avatar
RankRankRank
Total Posts:  348
Joined  02-28-2008

@JT Thompson
Yeah mee too, I am quite impressed with Ibrowser look & feel but performance was discouraging and if anyone else wants to share please post.

@mdesign
Keep up the work, it looks like a nice aid and why not offer an alternative tool.

All the best!

Profile
 
 
Posted: 17 June 2008 05:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]  
Research Assistant
Avatar
RankRankRank
Total Posts:  348
Joined  02-28-2008

Small update…I suppose mainly for JT and Ibrowser plugin.
Here is what my host came back with:

Your account has spawned 40 processes and thus the system has been rejecting further requests, hence the ISE error.

The script which generated most of the processes is:

/public_html/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/ibrowser/scripts/phpThumb/phpThumb.php

You may need to contact an expert local web developer to review this script and to optimize it for you. Once the script is patched according the above limit the issue should be resolved. Note that we have set the above limit in order to provide equal resources for each account on the server….

<insert their push for dedicated server here>

I suppose the “optimizing” part is subjective but there is something that plugin making it crawl & hog…for what is worth…
All the best!

Profile
 
 
Posted: 16 September 2008 10:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]  
Summer Student
Total Posts:  1
Joined  09-16-2008

today I find very helpful articles about WYSIWYG in EE - “file and image management plugins for tinymce” and I think its can be interesting no only for me.

Profile
 
 
Posted: 17 September 2008 12:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]  
Lab Assistant
Avatar
RankRank
Total Posts:  204
Joined  04-12-2008

I think the best editor for inexperienced users, including a file and image management is the combination of TinyMCE and their Image + FileManager.

 Signature 

Designchuchi | Twitter
URL Field Extension
Required Category

Profile
 
 
Posted: 17 September 2008 01:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]  
Grad Student
Avatar
Rank
Total Posts:  37
Joined  01-04-2008

But it cost 120$ per site. If I will do site with WYSIWYG, I might choose Kae’s File Manager with “LG TinyMCE Plus KFM” extension - I tested it today and its looks powerful and its simplicity in implementation.

 Signature 

First Contact
kCaptcha

Profile
 
 
Posted: 17 September 2008 01:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]  
Lab Assistant
Avatar
RankRank
Total Posts:  204
Joined  04-12-2008
MaxUp - 17 September 2008 01:05 AM
But it cost 120$ per site. If I will do site with WYSIWYG, I might choose Kae’s File Manager with “LG TinyMCE Plus KFM” extension - I tested it today and its looks powerful and its simplicity in implementation.

Sure it does, but what is 120$ compared to a powerful marketing instrument such as a website is nowadays and mostly compared to the total costs / ROI, those 120$ / per site are well spent - at least it seems to be the most practical solution, not only for the customers.

You might also buy an unlimited license if you’re doing a lot of pages, which of course lowers the price with each website you make. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not affiliated with Moxiecode in any way. We’ve tested a lot of WYSIWYG editors during last couple of years (in quite a few Drupal installations too) and somehow we always ended up with TinyMCE and those two plugins.

Just my 2 cents wink

 Signature 

Designchuchi | Twitter
URL Field Extension
Required Category

Profile
 
 
   
2 of 2
2
 
Post Marker Legend
New Topic New posts Hot Topic Hot Topic with new posts New Poll New Poll Moved Topic Moved Topic Sticky Topic Sticky topic
Old Topic No new posts Hot Old Topic Hot Topic with no new posts Old Poll Old Poll Closed Topic Closed Topic Announcement Announcements
Theme
Change Theme
Visitor Statistics
The most visitors ever was 1149, on July 16, 2007 10:33 AM
Total Registered Members: 62610 Total Logged-in Users: 22
Total Topics: 77108 Total Anonymous Users: 7
Total Replies: 416361 Total Guests: 143
Total Posts: 493469    
Members ( View Memberlist )
Newest Members:  redarcEbbyWolfCIfan1000grayskwrlcornernotetriplexwengbaoshanGenki1gabewellsGlauco