I am actaully wondering about the following.

I am at long last moving on and using a custom build CMS and a new provider.

The designiger says he doubts I can have static pages unless I manually save each and every page by hand and then put it in a subdirectory to preserve the relativeness of the pages.

Alternatively, he thinks if the provider allows, I can install EE IN a sub durectory and continue to serve the files as real Expression Engine pages.

My provider will allow the sub directory but still waiing on whther he will allow Expression Engine.

Assuming no EE allowed, is there a way to save static pages automatically somehow from EE and keep them for reference?

Or so we have to instal EE on the new system?

Thanks

EDIT:

Sorry, I misunderstood your initial question, thus the answer I gave was incorrect.  I am sorry, but I do not know the correct answer to give you.

Regards,

-greg

Sorry to hear you’re having to abandon EE.  An automated site-scraping utility might help you quickly generate static HTML files with the proper structure.  As long as all of your pages are linked, you shouldn’t have any problems.  There are free scraping utilities for all major OSes, so a quick Google should get you where you are after.

Thanks Greg (I got the initial message via emailas well as the corerction here).

And thanks Derek.

>>Sorry to hear you’re having to abandon EE.<<

I have enjoyed it; ill be moving to something Drupal based that is a little more WYSIWYG…but anyway…..The site could not gotten this far without EE and its predecessor PMACHINE.

  An automated site-scraping utility might help you quickly generate static HTML files with the proper structure.

Ah..ok…that is what I wanted to hear.

I have a vague recollection od somethings ported from PMACHINE that dd not arrive intact, and thus the pages do not show up in EE. But the cause may very well be something different.  And I am not sure that is the same a static page.
I think it was a two prong thing of moving from one host to another and one program to another, plus issues with encoding (I may not have used Unicode before and the japanese pages did not always make it correctlg for that reason.  I suppose to make things easier I should use the same encoding or warn people.

  As long as all of your pages are linked, you shouldn’t have any problems.  There are free scraping utilities for all major OSes, so a quick Google should get you where you are after.

Great.
I am a bit unsure though of the subdirectory thing.  Let me give an example
http://techforpeople.net/~paul/

is the new site (it will soon be changed to tokyoprogressive.org after I move the new site over)

So now I have just made links to the main sections of the current tokyoprogressive.org

If you click on WORLD you get some of those links

http://www.tokyoprogressive.org/index/category/world-news/P396/
for example shows all the pages from old to new for that category.

http://www.tokyoprogressive.org/index/archives

shows the archives of all things in all categores by month.

A typical story itself as a url like

http://www.tokyoprogressive.org/index/weblog/comments/-hundreds-of-muslim-immigrants-rounded-up-in-calif/

So with a site scraping Utility I could have all of those pages and not even have to put in a new durectory so long as the new stuff doesn’t have any files with the same name?

Good to hear.

And thanks again!!!

Paul

Yes, that sounds correct, Paul, and if you do happen to have to make any path changes, you can use an app like TextMate or TextWrangler, etc. to do a folder-wide find and replace of certain URLs to match their new locations.

Hope to see you back in the community some day!

Derek Jones - 26 April 2008 07:24 AM

Yes, that sounds correct, Paul, and if you do happen to have to make any path changes, you can use an app like TextMate or TextWrangler, etc. to do a folder-wide find and replace of certain URLs to match their new locations.

Hope to see you back in the community some day!

Just some feedback rom the guy who is doing the change for me in Chicago (I am in Tokyo).

He had thought he needed to have the EE installed but I told him what you said here.  He said he tried a scraper last night and the files seemed wierd.  I told him I would check here.  While waiting for him to come back, here is what he said in the last mail—->

I think the stylesheets are there, they’re probably just aggregated by
Expression Engine. It’s just taking a little bit of looking to find all
of them, as the URLs in the headers point to Expression Engine’s code to retrieve the stylesheets rather than to the stylesheets themselves.

I’ve never scraped sites before, but it seems to take an extraordinarily long amount of time, but maybe that’s partly because of maintenance on my ISP today. After the pull finished last night but was corrupted, I started it again overnight. It seemed to have hung overnight so I restarted it when I got up, but it’s still running now :p I think this will work quite well when it finally finishes though, I’ll keep you posted on progress.

Just in case there is anything in there that indicates he is doing something wrong, could you let me know if there is anything else I should tell him?

Thanks

paul

There are no static files. There is the EE code, of course, but all of your textual content is in the databse, including—in your case—the stylesheets.

Ok…thanks. Now a bit confused. The top most reply says something about being able to create static pages.  And that I do not need to port EE over to my new host.  You say it is in the database and not static pages. But still a sitescraper, Derek mentioned, will work and create the static pages.

I guess I am confused by the terminology, and also since the guy helping me also seems to think the site scraper he tried is not generating the static pages.

To clarify, I want to have the archived site avaailable at the original address even after i leave EE and use the new Drupal.

I think I have a problem understanding the terminology. But as I was assured it can be done without having EE installed, I want to confirm.

thanks

tokyoprogressive - 02 May 2008 01:43 AM

Ok…thanks. Now a bit confused. The top most reply says something about being able to create static pages.  And that I do not need to port EE over to my new host.  You say it is in the database and not static pages. But still a sitescraper, Derek mentioned, will work and create the static pages.

Let me clarify. Of course, spidering your pages, and thus creating a static copy, should work. I was referring to your quote:

It’s just taking a little bit of looking to find all of them, as the URLs in the headers point to Expression Engine’s code to retrieve the stylesheets rather than to the stylesheets themselves.

That is because there are no “stylesheets themselves” (unless you saved them in static files), because they’ll be served by EE like the rest of your page. But yes, you still should be able to spider them and turn them into static pages.

Ok…that is a relief.

Thanks very much!!!

Did Ingmar’s reply make sense? I’d like to close the thread if so.

Thanks, yes.

Great

Closing thread..