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Posted: 12 April 2005 01:59 AM   [ Ignore ]  
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I’ve checked the pMachine Store. Couldn’t find a pricing for upgrade from pMachine Pro. Is there one?

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Posted: 12 April 2005 08:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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The upgrade offer expired on March 15, as indicated in both the email that was sent out to existing pM Pro customers and on the pMachine Pro page.

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Posted: 12 April 2005 05:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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I’m quite unhappy to hear this. I had been swamped with work that I could not get around to this upgrade until now. Even so, I’m still quite tied down by more deadlines.

My other option then is to continue to use pMachine Pro, and later figure out how to migrate to a free platform like Word Press that has many plug-ins which EE does not seem to support - such as Fotonoter.

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Posted: 12 April 2005 05:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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Actually, I feel quite angry that you folks should cut off pMachine Pro customers just like this. I had earlier thought that paid software has some advantage over free software. Looks like there’s none now.

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Posted: 12 April 2005 08:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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I’m not sure why you’d be upset about this; the email that was sent to all pMachine Pro customers clearly stated what was happening and that the upgrade discount offer was a limited time thing.  The same letter was publicly posted at the link mentioned above, which also notes when the offer is valid.  A full two months were given for the offer.

pMachine Pro customers are not “cut off”.  We are still providing support and if security issues are discovered then bug fixes will be released.  It’s simply that no new features will be added to pMachine Pro now.

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Posted: 13 April 2005 06:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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Two months is simply not enough, as I have explained earlier. But it apparently does not matter to the company, does it?

While pMachine Pro customers still get some support, there’re no discounts for upgrade now. How would I know whether after paying for EE, that there won’t be more charges and cut-off dates?

Seems to me better to forego loyality to pMachine and just go for a free and well-supported software like WordPress. E.g. other open source software like Flickr and Fotonoter have plug-ins and connections to WordPress, but not pMachine.

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Posted: 13 April 2005 06:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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Flickr isn’t open source software. It has an API which you can use, but I can’t purchase a license from Yahoo! to use it in another project.

I can very easily post to my EE weblogs from inside of Flickr. It supports the Blogger API. I do this about 3 times a week.

I’m sorry you didn’t choose to purchase the upgrade in a timely manner.

I’m not a member of the pMachine team, but I can tell you that no one can predict if or when EE would no longer be supported or discontinued. It depends on the what would take its place.

Why would pMachine have connections to WordPress? For importing or exporting entries? You can import into EE using the MT importing process. There’s some discussion on that in other threads.

There is at least one older script to import pMachine entries into WordPress. I queried in Google for pmachine wordpress import.

You’ll be able to see the same things I did on the topic.

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Posted: 13 April 2005 07:24 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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Sue, thanks for the tip on posting from Flickr.

>> “I can tell you that no one can predict if or when EE would no longer be
>> supported or discontinued. It depends on the what would take its place.”
>> “There is at least one older script to import pMachine entries into WordPress.”

You’ve just said it. Why choose to pay for EE then, especially without the discount? With so much more visible support for WordPress, WP’s probably more likely to be around for a longer time than EE.

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Posted: 13 April 2005 07:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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Are you just a pure blogger and only need something as simple as wordpress? EE and Wordpress are worlds apart.  EE is a LOT more flexible and isn’t plagued with the nonsense that tends to plague GPL software.

But honestly, it is like comparing apples and oranges. *shrugs*

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Posted: 13 April 2005 07:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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We are comparing apples and oranges.

EE has features that I don’t need, and don’t have features that I want (such as Fotonoter).

I’m especially frustrated that I’ve wasted time exploring EE and testing whether I can import my pMachine Pro entries into EE.

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Posted: 13 April 2005 07:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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tree#138680, your member profile says you joined in summer of 2003. Do you mean to tell us that you’ve been so busy for the last two years that you couldn’t take a moment to attend to your software plans? Or that it takes two months or more for you to read and respond to time-sensitive e-mail announcements?

Remind me not to hire you as a consultant.

I wonder why it is that freeloaders and chiseling pennypinchers think that their threat to take their “loyalty” elsewhere has some effect?

If you think US$149-199 is too much to pay for powerful software like this, then who cares what your other opinions are? I’ve been to Singapore (visit frequently, in fact) and it’s not a third-world, impoverised country.

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Posted: 13 April 2005 07:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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Is blogging supposed to my job and first priority? I am not a commercial user of pMachine.

Brendon, if you cannot think straight, shut up!

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Posted: 13 April 2005 07:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]  
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Fotonoter can be used in EE, it is simply a matter of templating.  ennovy.org has a tutorial to do something using a similar program.  So the feature thing, for that one in paritcular, is moot really.

Brendon, I think that you’re being a bit harsh.  Not everyone uses EE for commercial purposes, and not everyone has 149$+ to blog or even to run a business if it’s really new.

We do care about opinions, even if they’re critical, or how else would the business improve?  I respect that you’re loyal and supportive, but I don’t think that the name calling is necessary.

and tree…. same thing, the insults are unnecessary.

Everyone chill out or I’ll have to pull out the supersoaker. k?

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Posted: 13 April 2005 08:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]  
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tree#tree#138680 - if you don’t need most of the functionality of EE, then why do you want to use it?

Fotonotes looks interesting. Very similar to what you can already do in Flickr.

It’s a php solution, so you could use this in EE or pMachine.

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Posted: 13 April 2005 08:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]  
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>> “if you don’t need most of the functionality of EE, then why do you want to use it? “

Exactly the question that I’m asking myself right now.

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Posted: 13 April 2005 08:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]  
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US$149 is three trips to the movies in the United States, one night in a pretty decent hotel, three or four good meals, an iPod, or what have you. The constant gnashing of teeth over the cost of what is, after all, a discretionary purchase sticks in my craw. In Sing dollars it’s a little more expensive but I have found that S$300 can be spent relatively easily at the Borders Bookstore on Orchard Road or any Times booksellers. Even for a hobby, when the cost is considered over the span of a year (the likely lifespan of the purchase) we’re talking about US$12 a month. That’s the cost of hotdogs every other week. So I call it like I see it—and unfortunately I see it too much. People who want developers or other consultants to deliver everything under the sun, right the hell now (and for free!), ought to be criticized.

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Posted: 13 April 2005 08:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]  
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Brendon,

There is a large, big, huge difference between criticizing and insulting.  It is not necessary to call people names in order to point out that the cost of the product isn’t that high overall.

No-one should EVER come to the forums and think that they’ll get called names and insulted because of some feedback.

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Posted: 13 April 2005 08:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]  
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And are you saying that it’s $50/trip to the movies?  Where?  It’s 8$/person here, and it was 12$/person in NY….  ;p

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Posted: 13 April 2005 08:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]  
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Fair enough—I didn’t think it was so harsh but I accept your perspective, Lisa. I’m not a flamer in general, but this is my sensitive spot since I am in an industry where people expect me to work for free too.

As for the movies, figure in that you never go alone (I have two little kids), frequently spend $7.00 and up for the overpriced popcorn and drinks, and in big cities (not in Bend, I’d bet, but certainly in Seattle and New York) have to pay for parking—$6.00-9.00 just for the parking. The movie ticket itself is not the whole cost. At the end of that excursion there is usually $45-55 missing from the wallet.

We’re going to Hong Kong Disneyland in the fall. I am dreading that one.

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