What is your reaction to iWeb— the new addition to apple’s iLife suite? I am way too deep into expression engine on my personal blog to ever consider changing my personal blog to iblog. iBlog is to EE is what iPhoto is to Photoshop. I have to admit drooling when I saw the slick themes that are packaged in iBlog.
What is your reaction to iWeb— the new addition to apple’s iLife suite? I am way too deep into expression engine on my personal blog to ever consider changing my personal blog to iblog. iBlog is to EE is what iPhoto is to Photoshop. I have to admit drooling when I saw the slick themes that are packaged in iBlog.
What you have to look at is the people who don’t have EE, WP, Mambo, Joomla… or even know how to create an simple HTML page. See you and I use things like this because we know the technology and have been playing around on-line longer then the people who would use this app. I see it working for people like my brother who takes photos and maybe would like to share them via his own web-page and knows nothing “And I mean nothing about tech!” This is the type of people who will use and benefit from this.
Just got iLife 06 today and played with iWeb very briefly. It produces very attractive, but lightweight web pages. Very media-oriented, not for those of us who don’t even take good pictures!
I was having FrontPage flashbacks as I piddled with it, but it is in no way a threat to EE or other serious blogging/CMS tools. And I’m guessing database integration into .Mac would be a major pain.
I wonder how extensible it is and if third-parties will try to make something more of it. Next stop, Sandvox…
That source is something ugly but at least one of the pages validated as xhtml transitional and the other only had 1 error. From that perspective at least, it could be worse. I suppose that’s not an outstanding recommendation. “iweb, it could be worse.” lol.
What’s interesting is that the Link validates as XHTML 1.0 transitional.
Tried iWeb. Nice for newbies. Same with Rapidweaver and the Sandvox beta. Both take the coding out of creating attractive web sites. I would like to see more templates for EE.
Part of the power of EE is the ability for endless customization. That being said, I think EE would do well to get rid of some of the ugly and repetitive templates that are available for download. They should replace them with a variety of templates that are clean and elegant ala http://www.blogger.com. If this were the case, iWeb would not be as attractive to a person who is new to CSS and HTML.
Part of the power of EE is the ability for endless customization. That being said, I think EE would do well to get rid of some of the ugly and repetitive templates that are available for download. They should replace them with a variety of templates that are clean and elegant alahttp://www.blog.com. If this were the case, iWeb would not be as attractive to a person who is new to CSS and HTML.
First… Looking at the above links It reminds me of Frontpage and pagemill back in the 90’s.
BUT remember this app is not for the design “FULL blown websites.” It’s a simple app for people wanting to share pictures online, and or have a simple blog. People who are not “geeks” and dont care about this web standards thing. I can point out many sites that do not validate (and code is not so clean) and this has not hurt them in the least. I will save that rant for another day
I dont agree with you here. EE cost money (one way or another), even with out having to design your own template the learning curve is more then enough. Is it for geeks, web geeks, coders? No this app is not for you. Also it’s the first version. DW just now got up to speed with CSS etc. So maybe in time they will get Zeldman or someone to consult on the next version
Regarding the EE templates a few observations:
- I assume most EE users “roll their own” pages so I’m not sure how much use the templates actually get. I haven’t seen too many around compared to, for example, the ubiquitous Kubrick template for Wordpress.
- I mostly use(d) the templates for pickin’ apart the code, for an EE beginner a lot can be learned from picking apart those pages.
- I think most of us are just way too busy to design and code some free blog templates.
- EE has, IMO, moved well beyond the point of mere blog software…now where is that shopping cart ?
There are known EE users who are building free templates for other CMS/blog programs.
I think they can maybe do the same thing for EE too.
Another way to increase EE’s available templates for newcomers is sharing expired templates. Some EE users change their designs occasionally; maybe those templates still could be good for newcomers.
Creating or customizing a template is really easy when you get familiar with EE tags, but there are people who would be happy to see more ready to use templates =)
Sandvox may provide a way of integrating EE - through pagelets. I believe the developers have said php can be included - why not EE tags? That would be really cool.
Can Sandvox support e-commerce, dynamic content, etc.?
Sandvox generates static content, so e-commerce and dynamic content are only available by using the custom HTML pages and pagelets (Pro version only). However, you can put server-side scripting constructs like PHP in your custom HTML pages and pagelets if you’re families with these constructs and if your ISP supports them. Additionally, you can insert custom <head> elements and pre-content preludes (useful for setting cookies or authentication).
I think it is fantastic when people share templates. My dream would be for EE to hire someone like Dan Cederholm from http://simplebits.com/ to design a variety of slick pro templates that would show off the power of EE.
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