I couldn’t justify paying for EE to use on my personal blog, but now that EE Core is released, I’m getting rid of Wordpress. It works fine - I just like EE better!

On my commercial sites, I can’t wait to try out 1.4

Way to go, Rick & Crew.

Yes, same here. I had toyed with using WP or MT for a few non-commercial sites, where I just couln’t justify the cost of the license. But, now? Why bother. Very cool, and if I do say so myself, probably a shroud buisness move also.

Looking at the poll here WP has almost 40% of the result and pMachine less than 2%. It will take more than shrewd to make up that gap but I too am pleased that I now have the possibility of boiling down my development to one or two design tools (Freeway4/Rapidweaver) and one delivery platform (EE). If 1.4 has got it right then that’s going to save a lot of pain….

Jules

That poll, I believe, is referring to pMachine Free/Pro, though it doesn’t say. ExpressionEngine is a completely different program, and isn’t listed there.

Lisa, dead right.

ecto completely ignores EE and it is clear from their forums they’ve ignored EE for some time (this is due to both the inherent flexibility of EE and the challenges of them building a tool flexible enough to cope with it).

However kungfootv are not alone. I’m hard pushed to find a Fantastico(Fo) installation that installs anything more than pmachine either, even though a large percentage of your “competition” are included on most server instals of Fo. This is surely a fast way to lose position in the consumer market and a place where ‘Core needs to work harder?

If there is a point it is that a) I think WP are so way out ahead in that market it’ll take more than Fo/‘Core to chance them down; and b) looking at what you’ve added to EE/commercial I’m not even convinced WP is even a real competitor in the market you seem to now be going after.

And in the long-term that to me looks like a way shrewder move than offering ‘Core as a jump-in point.

Jules

Julianps - 19 December 2005 03:05 AM

... a place where ‘Core needs to work harder?

Please, Core’s been out for, what, three days? And a weekend at that?

I think WP are so way out ahead in that market ...

Well,  they had a lot of the functions EE has, at a price that couldn’t be beat—until now.

Ingmar - absolutely!

WP has been deleted from my bookmarks already…..

My host (namesco) offers developer packages including unlimited domains/mysql databases. This basically allows my to install unlimited instances (of ‘Core) so that each user (do not call them members…) has their own instance of the code. I can have one default setup I replicate for each user and not have to worry about how I stop one user accessing details of another.

And it uses EE.

And it doesn’t incur any of those ugly little bugs that occur with WP sites.

It’s perfect. Yipee!

Jules

Julianps - 19 December 2005 03:21 AM

Ingmar - absolutely!

WP has been deleted from my bookmarks already…..

My host (namesco) offers developer packages including unlimited domains/mysql databases. This basically allows my to install unlimited instances (of ‘Core) so that each user (do not call them members…) has their own instance of the code. I can have one default setup I replicate for each user and not have to worry about how I stop one user accessing details of another.
Jules

Hi Jules, while we appreciate the kind words about Core, you are violating our license by doing this and you need to stop right away. Our license clearly states that:

Unless you have been granted prior, written consent from pMachine Inc., you may not:
* Use the Software as the basis of a hosted weblogging service, or to provide hosting services to others.
* Reproduce, distribute, or transfer the Software, or portions thereof, to any third party.

By automatically installing Core for others you are providing a hosted blogging service to others and redistributing our software without consent. This hurts our business and our community over the long term.

If you are interested in being a hosted provider of Core, please to work out a custom license and distribution deal. Thanks.

Leslie,

Thanks for the head’s up; in fact as I mentioned in a completely different post I do understand that the end user must download the code because the end user must agree to the licence. I would not violate that code ‘agreement; that having been said your distribution suggestion raises some interesting possibilities as well. I will bear them in mind.

Nor am I hosting a blogging service;you might consider my proposed use analogous of Macromedia’s Contribute product. Users will download ‘Core and I will provide a theme. They can then log-in and use it for themselves so that they can update information on-the-fly without having to deal directly with HTML/etc. Should they elect to, or have another party make template changes, well that will be their right as licence holders.

If you feel this issues needs further clarification in public please add your further thoughts here; if you feel there are only issues of interpretation maybe we can take those offline? Suffice it to say it is my intention to remain 101% in accordance with the agreement.

Jules